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Posted on 11/20/23 at 6:41 pm to SCDawg95
Posted on 11/20/23 at 6:41 pm to SCDawg95
I was cautiously optimistic in the preseason. Now I have no doubt about that offense with him at QB. He’s playing with so much confidence that I’m not sure any team is gonna stop him. He’s a legit starter quality QB in the NFL and only time will prove that.
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Posted on 11/20/23 at 6:54 pm to Kneehigh
I agree with all of these Beck superlatives but there is still room for Carson to grow. The deep ball remains a deficiency in absolute terms and relative to Milroe.
Although the deep ball score wows people, I prefer the way Beck takes us down the field with safe intermediate throws. Scoring too quickly doesn't give our defense time to rest.
Although the deep ball score wows people, I prefer the way Beck takes us down the field with safe intermediate throws. Scoring too quickly doesn't give our defense time to rest.
Posted on 11/20/23 at 7:12 pm to Whiznot
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I agree with all of these Beck superlatives but there is still room for Carson to grow. The deep ball remains a deficiency in absolute terms and relative to Milroe. Although the deep ball score wows people, I prefer the way Beck takes us down the field with safe intermediate throws. Scoring too quickly doesn't give our defense time to rest.
I agree with this. I’m not saying he’s there now necessarily but he’s improving every week. I do think the deep ball will be there in the upcoming weeks because of the confidence he has in himself and those weapons.
Posted on 11/20/23 at 8:46 pm to Whiznot
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Although the deep ball score wows people,
I think we’d all like to see the ball thrown over a receivers shoulder in stride for a quick strike.
That’s said, the slow methodical drive does fit intro CKS’s clock management style of eat clock/score/stop them….eat clock/score/ stop them. You do that three or four times and there isn’t enough time left for them to catch back up if you don’t give up explosives.
If Smart could just get his end of half clock management figured out I’d say he’s working on a different level.
Posted on 11/20/23 at 9:39 pm to SquatchDawg
I agree. Having the ball with good field position, a whole minute left in the half and all three timeouts is time to be aggressive. In that case seconds are more valuable than timeouts. We shouldn't run out of clock with two unburned timeouts.
Posted on 11/20/23 at 10:16 pm to Whiznot
Smart will rather take 3 points at the end of the half than risk giving up 7 the other way. Its a good plan and proven.
Posted on 11/20/23 at 10:20 pm to Peter Buck
The "what the frick are we doing" from Carson in the Ole Miss game will come back to haunt us. That's my position.
Posted on 11/20/23 at 11:01 pm to deeprig9
Nah
Posted on 11/21/23 at 2:16 am to Peter Buck
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Smart will rather take 3 points at the end of the half than risk giving up 7 the other way. Its a good plan and proven.
He even explained it to everyone after the Missouri game. Then, when we didn't pull the trigger on the TO against Ole Miss, people are still questioning why he does it.
Ole Miss got the turnover that Kirby worries about in those situations which can be a 10-14 point swing at the end of the half, but Lane only had seven seconds with which to work.
He elected to take a knee.
I'll let Kirby coach, and I'll drink whiskey and cheer.
Posted on 11/21/23 at 6:22 am to deeprig9
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will come back to haunt us.
No, it won't
Posted on 11/21/23 at 12:01 pm to deeprig9
GTFOH
Posted on 11/21/23 at 12:29 pm to Peter Buck
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Smart will rather take 3 points at the end of the half than risk giving up 7 the other way. Its a good plan and proven.
You are implying that on offense we are more likely to be scored against than scoring ourselves. That is absurdly stupid.
Posted on 11/21/23 at 12:34 pm to Whiznot
I’m going to trust the guy who stands to break the consecutive wins record and bring us a 3rd straight title, personally.
Posted on 11/21/23 at 1:34 pm to Whiznot
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You are implying that on offense we are more likely to be scored against than scoring ourselves. That is absurdly stupid.
Kirby is playing to win.
Not just the opponent.
He plays the clock.
And it is the truth... finishing a half with a field goal or touchdown is the goal.
Saving clock too early gives the opponent a chance for points and momentum.
Why is this an argument at this point?
Posted on 11/21/23 at 2:16 pm to meansonny
I agree.
Wide-open offense is a necessary risk in the first half in order to build a comfortable lead.
I don't believe in ultra-conservative offense in the 2nd half but if you can get first downs and chew up clock, additional scoring is less of a priority.
This works with a strong defense.
But if you don't have a strong defense, like for instance LSU, you best score as often as possible.
Wide-open offense is a necessary risk in the first half in order to build a comfortable lead.
I don't believe in ultra-conservative offense in the 2nd half but if you can get first downs and chew up clock, additional scoring is less of a priority.
This works with a strong defense.
But if you don't have a strong defense, like for instance LSU, you best score as often as possible.
Posted on 11/21/23 at 9:07 pm to Whiznot
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You are implying that on offense we are more likely to be scored against than scoring ourselves. That is absurdly stupid.
It’s only absurdly stupid to you because you obviously don’t understand. When you have the ball, you can control the clock. If you are at midfield with a minute left and it is 3rd down and you are in position to run the clock down, you do so. If you get the first down, you have time to run plays down to zero. If you call the timeout, you have a chance to give the other team the ball back with time to score. The way Smart plays it, he significantly reduces the chances of the other team ending the half with a score and puts us in a spot to be the only ones who realistically can score. If the game is close or we have a lead, you are reducing most realistic chances of the other team going into the half with some momentum and a cheap score.
Posted on 11/21/23 at 10:22 pm to Peter Buck
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It’s only absurdly stupid to you because you obviously don’t understand. When you have the ball, you can control the clock. If you are at midfield with a minute left and it is 3rd down and you are in position to run the clock down, you do so. If you get the first down, you have time to run plays down to zero. If you call the timeout, you have a chance to give the other team the ball back with time to score. The way Smart plays it, he significantly reduces the chances of the other team ending the half with a score and puts us in a spot to be the only ones who realistically can score. If the game is close or we have a lead, you are reducing most realistic chances of the other team going into the half with some momentum and a cheap score.
False.
It was 2nd and 17 (due to penalty) with 1:00 left in th half from UGA 48.
Beck to Lovett for 7 yards to Ole Miss 45. Makes it 3rd and 10.
Kirby allows 45 seconds to roll off the clock before calling a TO with 12 seconds left.
Then we call a play that results in another Beck to Lovett pass for 17 yards to the Ole Miss 28.
But then there's only 7 seconds left.
And instead of running out the FG unit to top off the tank, we all of a sudden, out of nowhere decide to be aggressive, and that's when the pick came.
But as you say, thankfully ole miss only had 7 seconds on the clock. As if that dumb shite was planned.
That was piss poor clock management. Maybe I'm dumb, but Carson Beck himself was yelling at the sideline "what the frick are we doing?" during this 9 dimensional chess.
Posted on 11/21/23 at 10:42 pm to deeprig9
I said we were around midfield, 3rd and 10 with a minute left
Posted on 11/21/23 at 10:48 pm to Peter Buck
We complete it to the 28. Take another shot down filed. If we catch it. We are on the 10 with 7 seconds left and can take a shot at the end zone and have time to kick a field goal.
If they pick it off, they have no time to do anything about it.
If they pick it off, they have no time to do anything about it.
Posted on 11/22/23 at 12:32 am to deeprig9
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And instead of running out the FG unit to top off the tank, we all of a sudden, out of nowhere decide to be aggressive, and that's when the pick came.
I want you on record.
Is the pick because we were aggressive?
Is it because we didn't use the timeout?
Or is it because Lovett didn't catch the ball?
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