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re: California Law - Thoughts?
Posted on 9/30/19 at 3:32 pm to BranchDawg
Posted on 9/30/19 at 3:32 pm to BranchDawg
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That’s essentially what an endorsement is. It’s a private contract between the player and the sponsor.
Fixing games will be a whole lot easier once people can openly pay players directly. That will be a very tough aspect to police.
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Posted on 9/30/19 at 3:33 pm to FaCubeItches
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Fixing games will be a whole lot easier once people can openly pay players directly. That will be a very tough aspect to police.
Not really. You remove a player’s eligibility if they are found to have point-shaved. Nothing changes in that respect.
No eligibility, no playing. No playing, likely no money.
This post was edited on 9/30/19 at 3:34 pm
Posted on 9/30/19 at 3:37 pm to BranchDawg
Sounds good in theory until it happens with seniors in bowl games outside of the CFP.
Posted on 9/30/19 at 4:11 pm to LSUHobNailBoot
This could start to affect recruiting immediately. 2020 recruits will be seniors in 2023 and therefore eligible to sign an agent and sign contracts in their senior season. If Oregon followed suit, would a CEO like Phil Knight be allowed to sign Oregon superstars to national contracts for Nike? I'd guess some players will start listening to sales pitches for what they might earn in their last year of college.
This post was edited on 9/30/19 at 4:15 pm
Posted on 9/30/19 at 4:47 pm to BranchDawg
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You remove a player’s eligibility if they are found to have point-shaved.
If. That's the thing about fixes; if they are done well, they're very hard to detect. Unless a participant talks, no one's the wiser. They might suspect, sure, but proving a fix is very difficult.
Posted on 9/30/19 at 4:55 pm to FaCubeItches
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If. That's the thing about fixes; if they are done well, they're very hard to detect. Unless a participant talks, no one's the wiser. They might suspect, sure, but proving a fix is very difficult.
That’s also no different than now.
Posted on 9/30/19 at 5:40 pm to RedPants
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The rant isn't taking this as seriously at it should. IMO, we're seeing the beginning of the end.
'Tis indeed. College football won't be around in it's current in 10 years.
Posted on 9/30/19 at 5:58 pm to wdhalgren
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If Oregon followed suit, would a CEO like Phil Knight be allowed to sign Oregon superstars to national contracts for Nike?
Not if said CEO was in charge of a publicly traded company (like Nike)
ROI is the ultimate check on that sort of behavior
Posted on 9/30/19 at 6:00 pm to BranchDawg
Now, at least, any investigation could trace money that a player was receiving, or at least things he's buying, that he wouldn't normally have.
If players are receiving independent payments, it becomes murkier. Contracts can be backdated, etc. Plus, there is now the threat of simply not paying not only a player who refuses to go along with a suggestion, but of also not paying others - perhaps on both teams - and explaining very clearly who caused that to happen.
The more wrinkles you add to a system, the easier the system is to corrupt.
If players are receiving independent payments, it becomes murkier. Contracts can be backdated, etc. Plus, there is now the threat of simply not paying not only a player who refuses to go along with a suggestion, but of also not paying others - perhaps on both teams - and explaining very clearly who caused that to happen.
The more wrinkles you add to a system, the easier the system is to corrupt.
Posted on 9/30/19 at 6:01 pm to Cobb Dawg
Feature, not bug, unfortunately.
Posted on 9/30/19 at 6:03 pm to BranchDawg
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I will never have problem with someone making money off their likeness. This is the best option, in my view, to allow athletes to receive compensation for their performance on some form of merit basis while keeping the school’s hands out of it.
If you think we’re going to go the rest of time without players making any money as the sport around them rakes in millions upon millions, you don’t know how markets work. The players will find a way to get money eventually, so you better find out which way you’re most comfortable with.
This. You can't have businesses this big without having to eventually compensate the talent.
Before everyone jumps on me saying some variation of "but they get a scholarship," I agree that that is more than fair compensation for like 98% of D1 football and basketball players. That doesn't mean that the remaining 2% should have to put up with being ripped off.
Zion Williamson should have been allowed to enter the NBA as an 18 year old. That doesn't justify the NCAA preventing him from signing a shoe deal. The endorsement model is the only hope for preserving college sports in any form similar to what is in place currently.
Posted on 9/30/19 at 6:16 pm to Crowknowsbest
College Football is a Billion $ industry that has has been slowly distancing itself from College for the past 50 years or so.
A lot of the issues could be solved if all Scholarships were 4 years assured pending meeting core academic requirements.
A lot of the issues could be solved if all Scholarships were 4 years assured pending meeting core academic requirements.
Posted on 9/30/19 at 6:18 pm to Crowknowsbest
Another couple of cans of worms....
Everybody buys the #7 Swift jersey.....nobody gives a frick about #74 but Big Ben's Mamma. Jake Fromm is on the cover of NCAA Football 2020 (Wishful thinking) but once again what about Rodrigo? How do less popular players get compensated?
How are we going to handle women's sports because you know that shite will be coming? Nobody gives a frick about them but you can be damn sure they are going to be screaming "Title IX this, disparity in money between female and male that, just like the USA Women's Soccer Team."
Everybody buys the #7 Swift jersey.....nobody gives a frick about #74 but Big Ben's Mamma. Jake Fromm is on the cover of NCAA Football 2020 (Wishful thinking) but once again what about Rodrigo? How do less popular players get compensated?
How are we going to handle women's sports because you know that shite will be coming? Nobody gives a frick about them but you can be damn sure they are going to be screaming "Title IX this, disparity in money between female and male that, just like the USA Women's Soccer Team."
This post was edited on 9/30/19 at 6:22 pm
Posted on 9/30/19 at 6:20 pm to DaveyDownerDawg
Football is the golden goose that pays for most other sports
Posted on 9/30/19 at 6:23 pm to Peter Buck
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Football is the golden goose that pays for most other sports
I get that....but when the other sports start seeing the money football players are getting through endorsements/contracts/jersey sales etc they are going to come out of the woodwork railing....that's what worries me.
I'm not a fan of this ruling by any means. Worried what it means for the greatest sport on planet Earth.
This post was edited on 9/30/19 at 6:27 pm
Posted on 9/30/19 at 6:24 pm to LSUHobNailBoot
College Football, abide by the rules or don't play????
The left said all had to be treated equal, this is the opposite of that.
I love our guys but they are all just place holders for the next man up....
The left said all had to be treated equal, this is the opposite of that.
I love our guys but they are all just place holders for the next man up....
Posted on 9/30/19 at 6:28 pm to DaveyDownerDawg
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How do less popular players get compensated?
Their scholarship. Just like now.
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How are we going to handle women's sports because you know that shite will be coming?
They have every right to sign an endorsement deal, just like men.
Posted on 9/30/19 at 6:29 pm to DaveyDownerDawg
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when the other sports start seeing the money football players are getting through endorsements/contracts/jersey sales etc they are going to come out of the woodwork railing
They will have no legitimate beef within the context of the US economy. That would be the free market at work.
Posted on 9/30/19 at 6:43 pm to Crowknowsbest
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"No person in the United States shall, on the basis of sex, be excluded from participation in, be denied the benefits of, or be subjected to discrimination under any education program or activity receiving Federal financial assistance."
All I'm saying is that I can see it causing some in-fighting amongst sports when Jake Fromm signs a $1M Nike contract (Hypothetical).
This post was edited on 9/30/19 at 6:45 pm
Posted on 9/30/19 at 6:46 pm to Crowknowsbest
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Not if said CEO was in charge of a publicly traded company (like Nike) ROI is the ultimate check on that sort of behavior
College athletes can be quite famous. I'm not sure why a public company can make money from well known professional athletes endorsing their product but not well known college athletes. I didn't say they'd do it in an unprofitable manner.
This post was edited on 9/30/19 at 6:47 pm
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