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California Law - Thoughts?
Posted on 9/30/19 at 2:01 pm
Posted on 9/30/19 at 2:01 pm
So I hate the Rant as it is literally a collection of trolls and complete idiots.
So curious y'alls thoughts on this. I really think we are seeing the future of NCAA athletics change forever. I think this is a devastating blow to the sport we all love.
The Transfer Portal I think already introduced "free agency" into college sports. I get it but it has created a "I dont like it here I am leaving" or "I am a QB and dont want to wait, I am leaving"
Anyway I digress, if this is allowed to proceed the face of college sports is forever changed for the bad. First off if all states dont follow suit California will have a tremendous advantage in recruiting.
In addition the "Me first" mentality will only get much worse. "I am at USC for a shoe contract"
The concept of education - Doesnt matter anymore. It will be a farm system for NFL/NBA wannabees.
I suggest if this is an issue, prevent this law and remove the two year waiting list (or one year for Basketball) for Pro Sports.
Let them "Go get paid" in the NFL or NBA if they are good enough.
I think this is a terrible idea.
Thoughts?
So curious y'alls thoughts on this. I really think we are seeing the future of NCAA athletics change forever. I think this is a devastating blow to the sport we all love.
The Transfer Portal I think already introduced "free agency" into college sports. I get it but it has created a "I dont like it here I am leaving" or "I am a QB and dont want to wait, I am leaving"
Anyway I digress, if this is allowed to proceed the face of college sports is forever changed for the bad. First off if all states dont follow suit California will have a tremendous advantage in recruiting.
In addition the "Me first" mentality will only get much worse. "I am at USC for a shoe contract"
The concept of education - Doesnt matter anymore. It will be a farm system for NFL/NBA wannabees.
I suggest if this is an issue, prevent this law and remove the two year waiting list (or one year for Basketball) for Pro Sports.
Let them "Go get paid" in the NFL or NBA if they are good enough.
I think this is a terrible idea.
Thoughts?
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Posted on 9/30/19 at 2:05 pm to LSUHobNailBoot
The rant isn't taking this as seriously at it should. IMO, we're seeing the beginning of the end.
Posted on 9/30/19 at 2:07 pm to LSUHobNailBoot
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So I hate the Rant as it is literally a collection of trolls and complete idiots.
Interesting way to start a thread...
This post was edited on 9/30/19 at 2:09 pm
Posted on 9/30/19 at 2:10 pm to kmdawg17
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So I hate the Rant as it is literally a collection of trolls and complete idiots
I mean he isn't wrong
and yes I hope the NCAA steps in and ends this shite with a quickness
Posted on 9/30/19 at 2:13 pm to LSUHobNailBoot
USC, UCLA, Cal, and Stanford bout to be top 4 in recruiting
Posted on 9/30/19 at 2:16 pm to kmdawg17
Nah, California schools about to no longer be in the NCAA.
Posted on 9/30/19 at 2:18 pm to Sandwich
quote:They have no say. Just like the state has no say in how the NCAA runs it's business.
the NCAA steps in
Posted on 9/30/19 at 2:19 pm to SneakyWaff1es
Except, the NCAA can choose it's members ....
Posted on 9/30/19 at 2:19 pm to LSUHobNailBoot
So they need to get paid endorsements on top of getting a free ride scholarship while everyone else has to go into debt? BS.
From what I’m reading the law won’t go into effect for 3 more years. I’ve read that the NCAA will disqualify all schools that allow athletes to receive paid endorsements. BUT apparently they will be sued if they take that action and who knows where that leads.
If the NCAA loses the lawsuit then we’re at a point where this will have to be allowed in every other state unless we want USC and UCLA to get all the 5 star athletes.
I hope the NCAA sticks to their guns and wins any lawsuits brought against them. If not then college football is ruined. Tebow was right when he said it becomes an individual sport rather than a team sport. There’s a reason I prefer college football over the NFL and they are trying to frick it up.
From what I’m reading the law won’t go into effect for 3 more years. I’ve read that the NCAA will disqualify all schools that allow athletes to receive paid endorsements. BUT apparently they will be sued if they take that action and who knows where that leads.
If the NCAA loses the lawsuit then we’re at a point where this will have to be allowed in every other state unless we want USC and UCLA to get all the 5 star athletes.
I hope the NCAA sticks to their guns and wins any lawsuits brought against them. If not then college football is ruined. Tebow was right when he said it becomes an individual sport rather than a team sport. There’s a reason I prefer college football over the NFL and they are trying to frick it up.
Posted on 9/30/19 at 2:34 pm to lewis and herschel
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Except, the NCAA can choose it's members ....
Don't hold your breath waiting for the NCAA to throw California schools out. It's not going to happen. Now you have other states about to pass a similar law. The NCAA is a paper tiger.
Football is probably not long for this world anyways, with all of the CTE and brain trauma, which isn't going away.
This post was edited on 9/30/19 at 2:36 pm
Posted on 9/30/19 at 2:40 pm to LSUHobNailBoot
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The Transfer Portal I think already introduced "free agency" into college sports. I get it but it has created a "I dont like it here I am leaving" or "I am a QB and dont want to wait, I am leaving
The transfer portal is the real problem IMO.
I actually don’t have a problem with this - IF - the rest of the country follows suit. It’s obviously a competitive issue if only one or a hadful of states have the law in place.
I will never have problem with someone making money off their likeness. This is the best option, in my view, to allow athletes to receive compensation for their performance on some form of merit basis while keeping the school’s hands out of it.
If you think we’re going to go the rest of time without players making any money as the sport around them rakes in millions upon millions, you don’t know how markets work. The players will find a way to get money eventually, so you better find out which way you’re most comfortable with.
If you want to talk threats to CFB, the transfer portal is where those lie. The appeals are an absolute joke and the NCAA needs to figure out what kind of system they want. Either enforce some sort of standard for whether a player can transfer without sitting or don’t. What we have is a farce and everyone knows it.
But hey, that’s the NCAA for you. No rhyme or reason to their actions and no one to hold them accountable.
Posted on 9/30/19 at 2:45 pm to LSUHobNailBoot
Law doesn't go into action until 2023 class. This shite will hurt California schools in the interim. It will all fade away and the NCAA will make some type of concession for everyone. Once again, Californian's are dumb and don't even realize how they are hurting themselves again. It's comically embarrassing.
This post was edited on 9/30/19 at 2:46 pm
Posted on 9/30/19 at 2:55 pm to IT_Dawg
Yes, the universities are 'raking' in billions.
But, the universities are spending billions to make it happen. It's a business.
Let the gifted players start their own business if they covet the university's profits.
But, the universities are spending billions to make it happen. It's a business.
Let the gifted players start their own business if they covet the university's profits.
Posted on 9/30/19 at 2:57 pm to superdawg
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Let the gifted players start their own business if they covet the university's profits.
That’s essentially what an endorsement is. It’s a private contract between the player and the sponsor. Again, this isn’t the schools paying the players, which is a very different can of worms and could go very wrong very quickly.
Posted on 9/30/19 at 2:59 pm to LSUHobNailBoot
It was a rebellion similar to this by college teams in 1977 that changed college football to what it is now. Big stadiums, Big salaries for coaches, and a hundred games every Saturday.
Remember the College Football Association? The NCAA threatened to de-sanction all programs at any school that was in it. Georgia and Oklahoma sued, the Supreme Court ruled in favor of the schools, and TV for all was born.
Remember the College Football Association? The NCAA threatened to de-sanction all programs at any school that was in it. Georgia and Oklahoma sued, the Supreme Court ruled in favor of the schools, and TV for all was born.
Posted on 9/30/19 at 3:07 pm to LSUHobNailBoot
I'm with you.
California going after college football is assinine.
If they want labor/market laws, then they should direct those at the NFL. Allow them to take anyone at any age.
If a kid wants to be a professional (that is what you are if you are making money using your demand as a football player), then skip college and be a professional.
The country is arse backwards aiming their swords at college football. If you want kids to get paid, stop pro teams from collective bargaining against the kids.
California going after college football is assinine.
If they want labor/market laws, then they should direct those at the NFL. Allow them to take anyone at any age.
If a kid wants to be a professional (that is what you are if you are making money using your demand as a football player), then skip college and be a professional.
The country is arse backwards aiming their swords at college football. If you want kids to get paid, stop pro teams from collective bargaining against the kids.
Posted on 9/30/19 at 3:08 pm to AlaCowboy
Maybe just televise games and if a player hasn't signed a waiver to let ESPN use their likeness, they can blur their face and name out. I kid of course, but I see this eventually going to either some sort of stipend capped at a certain amount or it will get decided by the Supreme Court. In which case the whole model of college athletics will come into view. I think the NCAA would have an argument that if players are now paid athletes then the whole business model fails.
Posted on 9/30/19 at 3:09 pm to LSUHobNailBoot
we better cancel those plans for upgrading Butts-Mehre. We're gonna need a surplus to bid on the high priced boys.
Posted on 9/30/19 at 3:20 pm to lewis and herschel
quote:Right. But they have no say in the law. They don't have to do anything different than they are right now. None of those kids will be eligible.
Except, the NCAA can choose it's members ....
Posted on 9/30/19 at 3:27 pm to AirbusDawg
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Maybe just televise games and if a player hasn't signed a waiver to let ESPN use their likeness, they can blur their face and name out. I kid of course, but I see this eventually going to either some sort of stipend capped at a certain amount or it will get decided by the Supreme Court. In which case the whole model of college athletics will come into view. I think the NCAA would have an argument that if players are now paid athletes then the whole business model fails.
The student athletes have value solely based upon the amateur athletic model.
Face it. 5 star 18 year old kids would get killed by 25 year old professionals. The drama, excitement, and entertainment of these kids is confined to the sole fact that they are playing other kids.
NFL Europe, XFL, etc.. all fail but with better athletes than in the college game.
If the government is to encourage college to look at these athletes as professionals, what is to say that we don't eliminate the 4/5 year eligibility requirement. Let 28 year old college students get this publicity.
The model only works because it is the current model.
Too many people want to cut off their nose to spite their face.
The real employer problem is with the NFL. They are the ones collectively bargaining against 18 year old athletes.
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