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DawgsLife
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re: All Carries Zamir White
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. I can't count how many times he seemed to get lost in the crowd only to pop out for extra big yardage.


Yeah, I saw that, too. It reminded me somewhat of Chubb in that respect. Different runners. So far Chubb had good power but could bust a long run with some speed.
Zamir seems more power oriented to me. Both difficult to bring down.


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DawgsLife
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re: All Carries Zamir White
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I would definitely call it more spread than air raid.


You could be right. I just seem to remember them throwing the ball between 45-60 times a game. that seems more air raidish to me. I'd have to look at the box scores more closely to see for sure, though.


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I personally do not expect us to get am Air raid type of offense. I believe we will remain a run based and oriented offense, but with more passing and a more innovative offensive strategy.

I just based this on our identity and Kirby's background, although I acknowledge that it could change. I just can't see us moving toward an Oklahoma State, Big 12 type of offense.


We would score at least 7-10 more TDs in a season if we only handed the ball of to a tailback so he could dive at the ankles of the center maybe only 30 or so times a game....I never cared for the center ankle dive play but I get it is part of our DNA but dammit if we only did it 30 times a game instead of 60.....


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meansonny
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He still gets so caught up in setting the blocking schemes up that he struggles hiking the ball. Personally if VanPran or Erickson or somebody could pick up everything required of a center I would like to see what Hill could do as a guard.


I'm in the same group of thinking as you.

There is a ton of value in having a center return for a 2nd or 3rd season. But I just think Hill may be more of a guard than Center. I'm a big proponent that players see a jump in production in their third season, so I'm hoping that will be the case if Hill stays at C.

One of the podcasts that I catch did mention a lot of cross training with the 1s at C (which makes sense in case of injury or covid). What confused or excited me was Hill crossing over and getting reps at guard with the 1s as well. It makes me think we are still looking for our best 5.


DawgsLife
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re: All Carries Zamir White
At Oklahoma State they averaged 45.7 passes a game.
When college football teams typically average 60 plays each it just seems Air Raidish to me.

At Southern Mississippi, in 2015 his team averaged right at 41 passes a game. However he also had two 1,000 yard rushers on that team, so it would appear he had a strong running game, too.

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Looks like he had a 1,200 yard rusher at Oklahoma State and another with 600.
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VADawg
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At Oklahoma State they averaged 45.7 passes a game.
When college football teams typically average 60 plays each it just seems Air Raidish to me.


In 2011, Oklahoma State averaged 45 passing attempts and 30 rushing attempts per game. In 2012, they averaged 38 passing attempts and 39 rushing attempts per game. He can adapt to what's on the roster.

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When college football teams typically average 60 plays each it just seems Air Raidish to me.


Running more plays is typically a good thing. College football has evolved to where you need an offense that'll average at least 37 points per game to have a chance at the national title.

Since 2000, the only three national champions to average less than 37 ppg were 2002 Ohio State (29), 2006 Florida (29), 2009 Alabama (32), and 2015 Alabama (35).
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DawgsLife
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re: All Carries Zamir White
Good deal! Yes, cross training on the OLine is something that Kirby has done a lot and to good affect.




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DawgsLife
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re: All Carries Zamir White
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In 2011, Oklahoma State averaged 45 passing attempts and 30 rushing attempts per game. In 2012, they averaged 38 passing attempts and 39 rushing attempts per game. He can adapt to what's on the roster.



Good! I am always open to the possibility that I might be wrong....especially when I disagree with my wife.

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Running more plays is typically a good thing. College football has evolved to where you need an offense that'll average at least 38ish points per game to have a chance at the national title.
Maybe, if you hang on to the ball for awhile in each drive. If you score too quickly you also give the ball back to the other team and can tire out your defense faster.

I will admit that I am biased toward the slug it out impose your will on the other guy type of offense, though.


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Also in Hill’s defense, Kinlaw is an absolute stud.

And the #14 pick in the NFL Draft. Now that's what you call upside for a # 32 OT and 341 overall HS recruit.


meansonny
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To be honest, Hill struggled in a lot more games than just South Carolina.

When we needed that yard on the ground, we were not very efficient in getting it.


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To be honest, Hill struggled in a lot more games than just South Carolina.

When we needed that yard on the ground, we were not very efficient in getting it.


There was a huge difference when Mays at center getting a huge push. I don't remember the quality of the team we were against but I remember wishing Hill could do that regularly.


VADawg
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re: All Carries Zamir White
Hill is outstanding at pass blocking. His run blocking needs some work. I'm not an expert on OL play, but maybe it has something to do with him struggling to fire off the ball?


meansonny
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Hill is outstanding at pass blocking. His run blocking needs some work. I'm not an expert on OL play, but maybe it has something to do with him struggling to fire off the ball?


Hill graded out very well at pass blocking per PFF. But I can think of several times he missed his man on a stunt or was caught off balance.

He was definitely more consistent pass blocking than short yardage run blocking. That is for sure.


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FaCubeItches
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Against Baylor, I saw us run more toss sweeps than we normally had during the season. It was exciting. I'm not sure why we don't do it more.


It's all about confusing the defense. See, when you run it straight up the gut 20 times in a row, the defense starts thinking "There's no way they'll do it 21 times. Ok, certainly not 22 times. Well, definitely not 23 times." and then they start looking for the sweep.


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RD Dawg
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RD Dawg
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[quote]Kinlaw was an animal. Great player, and he was way too quick for Kindley and Hill, who were both too heavy.


Lets not forget Wilson...Kinlaw blew past em on caused Fromm to rush his throw on the pick 6.The play arguably won the game for SC


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BoogerSykes
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re: All Carries Zamir White
I'd like to see him be a better pass catcher out the backfield, I know there were a few times he dropped pass thrown to him. I'd like to see him out there for every down to keep defense honest if he can catch passes.


DawgsLife
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I'd like to see him be a better pass catcher out the backfield, I know there were a few times he dropped pass thrown to him. I'd like to see him out there for every down to keep defense honest if he can catch passes.




I remember one at the Baylor game....but it is not unusual for a RB to not be a great pass catcher. That's what we have James Cook for, honestly. I want him to carry the ball and wear the defense down. Plow through and over them. Punish them. Murderize them.

But that's just me.


deeprig9
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re: All Carries Zamir White
That works on subpar teams lacking depth on D. That doesn't work on our peers.


claydawg09
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Have an upvote for saying “murderize” like you’re Buggs Bunny


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