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Posted on 9/10/20 at 4:30 pm to
Posted by DawgsLife
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Posted on 9/10/20 at 4:30 pm to
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That works on subpar teams lacking depth on D. That doesn't work on our peers.



Oh, yes. I understand that and agree. I am aware of the shortcomings of that type of offense. It is just what I like. Probably because it is primarily what i grew up with. I used to like high scoring throw the ball all over the field types when I was younger.

Now that I am older I just like the grind them down offense. Old man football, I guess?
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 9/11/20 at 9:50 am to
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I actually liked Chaney. I think he did an adequate job. Not great, but not as bad as many on here believe.


The problem with chaney was he absolutely positively could not adjust his gameplan on the fly based on what the defense was doing (and possibly our offense was not doing well) over the course of the game. He was EXCELLENT at drawing up a gameplan for the first quarter. We saw time and time again us come out and look outstanding in the first half. Hell even last year against UT you saw them score a couple TDs on us early. But after halftime when great defenses would start to adjust he simply had no answer.
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 9/11/20 at 10:42 am to
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Now that I am older I just like the grind them down offense. Old man football, I guess?


Playing slow, low scoring games based on ball control allows lesser talented teams to stay in games longer. That is a strategy that should only be used if you don't think you can keep up if the other team's offense gets rolling.
Posted by meansonny
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Posted on 9/11/20 at 10:44 am to
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Playing slow, low scoring games based on ball control allows lesser talented teams to stay in games longer.


Not necessarily.

Playing slow and not scoring allows lesser teams to stay in games.

The key is always being more efficient than your opponent.
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 9/11/20 at 10:58 am to
IMO, when you have the more talented team, you should always want to increase the advantage in number of possessions because you believe that you can score on more possessions than your opponent.

I've changed my mind quite a bit on this stance over the years after seeing these high flying offenses dominate the recent college football landscape.

I posted a stat earlier in this thread, but of the 20 national champions in this century, only three of them have averaged less than 37 ppg.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 9/11/20 at 11:51 am to
I can see that and don't have a problem with that assessment. Not just with Chaney....but I always wonder how much of an impact the HC has on a gameplan, changes, etc. I mean, look at Auburn. It seemed obvious he had a HUGE hand in the play calls and gameplan at Auburn. It will be interesting to see if Morris shakes that off, or will he be handcuffed.

Same for us when we kept running the ball up the middle on 4th and short or on the goal line. Was it Chaney and Coleys doing or were they running the type of plays that Kirby wanted them to run. On the one hand since it happened with two different OCs, I almost think Kirby had a hand in it. On the other hand Kirby went ballistic after one of the times it happened, so it made me think he let the OCs do their own thing.

Either way, with the talent we had on the OLine we should have been able to run those plays any time and anywhere.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 9/11/20 at 11:54 am to
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Playing slow, low scoring games based on ball control allows lesser talented teams to stay in games longer. That is a strategy that should only be used if you don't think you can keep up if the other team's offense gets rolling.


As I said....it is just the style I like. It stems I'm sure to what I played. As a player it is very gratifying to look across at your opponent and see defeat in their eyes. They are whipped and know it.

I remember one game in which our DLine was punishing the opposing ball carrier so badly that after halftime they ran into the line and you could see them start to scrunch up to avoid getting punished. They quit running hard even though, at the time it was a close game still.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 9/11/20 at 11:57 am to
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I've changed my mind quite a bit on this stance over the years after seeing these high flying offenses dominate the recent college football landscape.



Trust me. You'll change your stance again, probably. offenses and defense change constantly. It may not be noticeable to an average fan from year to year, but strategy, formations etc are tweaked all the time. Some are minor, some are drastic.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 9/11/20 at 1:05 pm to
The rules are firmly on the side of the offenses and with all the summer camps and 7 on 7's these HS kids do
in the off season I don see the pendelum swinging back to the defense any time soon.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 9/11/20 at 1:18 pm to
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The rules are firmly on the side of the offenses and with all the summer camps and 7 on 7's these HS kids do
in the off season I don see the pendelum swinging back to the defense any time soon.



I have no idea how long it will take, but it always swings back and forth.

ETA
People seem to be mistaking what I am saying.

I am not saying it is necessarily best. I am not saying Georgia should go to that style offense.

All I am saying is that is the style I have come to like.
This post was edited on 9/11/20 at 1:21 pm
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