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Posted on 1/18/22 at 3:34 pm to RealDawg
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Didn’t ask me..but no. He was indicted and a accusation was made. The indictment validates any action the school temporarily took.
That's really a shame for him. Out of curiosity I Binged (I use Bing) about the Girl who claimed a gang of white men kidnapped and raped her up in New York. Al Sharpton got involved, and late rit was proven she had lied.
Then you think about the Duke Lacross guys. and you can pull up page after page about women claiming to have been raped, sexually assaulted and turns out they were lying.
Meanwhile the stigma sticks to those people for the rest of their lives. It also harms and causes doubts when a young lady does come forward that actually needs help.
Well, I hope they find proof one way or the other. If he is guilty he needs to face the consequences. If he is innocent......wow. He may never recover.
Posted on 1/18/22 at 5:50 pm to DawgsLife
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Well, I hope they find proof one way or the other. If he is guilty he needs to face the consequences. If he is innocent......wow. He may never recover.
Once that accusation is made his life is changed forever. Obviously if he isn’t guilty that’s a good thing for him, however that stigma will always be there. It’s a sad situation all way around. I remember the A.J. Johnson rape case where he was acquitted. He basically lost 3 years and millions of dollars before finally being able to continue his career.
Posted on 1/18/22 at 5:54 pm to DawgsLife
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Namely extremely harsh penalties if the accuser is found to be lying.
I know they can have charges brought against them, but aren't the penalties pretty mild?
Here's the problem- the harsher the penalty for lying, the more likely the liar is to stick to their story and put an innocent man in jail.
I don't know the solution.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 9:07 am to deeprig9
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the harsher the penalty for lying, the more likely the liar is to stick to their story and put an innocent man in jail.
Agreed, but if the penalty is harsh enough, then maybe the lie is never told to begin with. The way things are right now its real easy for a girl who is embarrassed about her actions to make something up to save a little face. Not saying that's what's happening here.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 12:40 pm to DawgsLife
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Out of curiosity....and I ask you because I respect your opinion and you are obviously better read on the subject than I am....
If he is found Not Guilty, say the girl recants.....would he have any recourse against Georgia for suspending him for no reason other than bowing to popular opinion?
People need some recourse, imo. It pretty much ruined Richard Jewell's life, and put him into an early grave.
Why? because the FBI named him as a "person of Interest" and the papers put it out there for public consumption.
I have a strong feeling the answer is no, but if we as a nation want to truly protect the little man, then things like this need to be fixed. Namely extremely harsh penalties if the accuser is found to be lying.
I know they can have charges brought against them, but aren't the penalties pretty mild?
Looks like someone already answered, but no... he has no recourse to the university, and frankly he shouldn't in that scenario. They handled it correctly. There is an allegation, you're suspended from team activities until there is a better idea as to what is going to happen, and then you proceed based on how things go. Given the indictment, they had no choice but to completely separate. That's really not just popular opinion, the code of conduct/student handbook also have their own specific processes (which presumably have been followed here) and I don't know if the athletics group has a secondary additional layer of policies to adhere to in order to remain with the team/on scholarship but it would not be surprising.
If they found refuting evidence and then she recanted, he might have some degree of recourse against *her*, but you would probably have to prove malicious intent and frankly it's just not worth the time for him were he to be found not guilty. You could hope that the ACC DA would then potentially prosecute her, but wouldn't bet on it...
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Agreed, but if the penalty is harsh enough, then maybe the lie is never told to begin with. The way things are right now its real easy for a girl who is embarrassed about her actions to make something up to save a little face. Not saying that's what's happening here.
The *vast* majority of sexual assaults are not reported. I get that this group is pretty objectively a bunch of dudes, and it's easy to think "the girls are out to get them boys"... but the reality is that's rarely the case. I think deeprig mentioned this back when the charges were first announced, but given how quickly this was reported and the fact that it was done *prior* to him having cashed in via the NFL draft, there's very little in the way of motivating factors that would justify the kind of behavior described. That doesn't mean she's telling the truth, just that there's no obvious external motive here.
If anything, it seems like there is world for a tech savvy developer to build a "consent" app and market it to high net worth (or future net worth) individuals to capture quick video/signature and avoid any issues. Is it fun to think about doing before getting it on? Hell no... But it beats the shite out of this outcome.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 2:06 pm to fibonaccisquared
quote:Sorry but times have changed, and they’ve changed drastically in a very short time.
The *vast* majority of sexual assaults are not reported. I get that this group is pretty objectively a bunch of dudes, and it's easy to think "the girls are out to get them boys"... but the reality is that's rarely the case. I think deeprig mentioned this back when the charges were first announced, but given how quickly this was reported and the fact that it was done *prior* to him having cashed in via the NFL draft, there's very little in the way of motivating factors that would justify the kind of behavior described. That doesn't mean she's telling the truth, just that there's no obvious external motive here.
We are in an unprecedented era of overwhelming dishonesty. And “motive” for said dishonesty appears to be for the mere fricking attention it derives and the intoxicating feelings/emotions/pleasure that come from said attention.
Social media is the proverbial bunny-house for instant gratification attention whores. And cancel-culture is the proverbial crack-rock for attention whores who are addicted to sympathy, empathy, hate, vengeance, and the complexes of virtue and superiority.
And they use the process as either a weapon to crush perceived enemies, or simply to try and make themselves feel good/better/reinforce their feelings and brainwashed beliefs.
Nobody can trust a goddamn thing anyone claims about anyone at this moment. Honor, decency, morals, ethics, and purity are fricking GONE among certain demographics.
And certainly nowhere to be found among 20-something college kids who spend 80+ hours a week smashing like buttons in phone apps and think insane shite like Socialism = Utopia, gender is malleable, and words = violence.
We are so far gone that I’d bet there are significantly more false accusations levied against civil sophisticated people today than actual malfeasances perpetrated.
Brian Banks was just a precursor of a culture of dishonesty on the horizon, for example. Meanwhile, Jussie Smollet was not an anomaly. It was but an unveiling of a widespread cultural endemic that is now bursting at the seams.
Posted on 1/26/22 at 9:57 am to BeefDawg
FYI Anderson’s lawyer has announced Anderson is prepping for the draft and will not be trying to return to UGA, per Seth Emerson.
This post was edited on 1/26/22 at 9:58 am
Posted on 1/26/22 at 10:20 am to tylerdurden24
That's probably for the best for all involved, if he is innocent hopefully this will be expeditiously handled and he will have a long and productive NFL career.
If he is guilty, hopefully he will have a long, long time in prison to think about what he did wrong.
If he is guilty, hopefully he will have a long, long time in prison to think about what he did wrong.
Posted on 1/26/22 at 10:21 am to tylerdurden24
Well awesome then seems like the kid didn’t do anything wrong
Posted on 1/26/22 at 10:48 am to tylerdurden24
Posted on 1/26/22 at 10:57 am to SCDawg95
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Well awesome then seems like the kid didn’t do anything wrong
More likely he sees no need or opportunity to get back in school. If this hasn’t been dropped yet, then it could be a year or more before he even gets to court.
Posted on 4/26/22 at 5:55 pm to SCDawg95
Adam has been indicted by a Grand Jury for rape. He be fricked
Posted on 4/27/22 at 8:15 am to Kneehigh
He was already fricked. Indictments aren’t that hard to get. Doesn’t really even mean the case isn’t flawed. No doubt the DA had to move on it whether they wanted to or not.
Posted on 4/27/22 at 9:14 am to Kneehigh
Grand Jury indictment just comes from the DA presenting minimal evidence that will get it pushed through. With rape, it can just be the “accusers” statement and some actions she took after..it could also be worse, like texts after or doctor statements. Reason they are sealed. Also, defense doesn’t get to say anything during it either.
In the state of Georgia, a rape conviction is 25years to life, or death penalty. There are no degrees of rape and the judge cannot sentence to less.
He will have to think long and hard about a potential plea deal for sure….even if he feels he’s innocent. It’s not what he thinks, it’s what they can prove. Hope for the best for him
In the state of Georgia, a rape conviction is 25years to life, or death penalty. There are no degrees of rape and the judge cannot sentence to less.
He will have to think long and hard about a potential plea deal for sure….even if he feels he’s innocent. It’s not what he thinks, it’s what they can prove. Hope for the best for him
Posted on 4/27/22 at 9:24 am to BeefDawg
BeefDawg, a great analysis of our culture and time.
Posted on 4/27/22 at 10:54 am to Kneehigh
A GJ indictment only means there's enough evidence avaliable to take it to trial based on probable cause. Give the young man his day in court.
Unrelated - I'll invite BeefDawg to the Political Talk Board when more Durham indictments drop.
Unrelated - I'll invite BeefDawg to the Political Talk Board when more Durham indictments drop.
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