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re: 2026 Recruiting Thread (4* S Jordan Smith is a Dawg!)

Posted on 5/13/25 at 3:04 pm to
Posted by Kneehigh
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Posted on 5/13/25 at 3:04 pm to
I guess I need to really dig into the NFL because this is beyond fricking stupid at this point.
Posted by Violent Hip Swivel
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Posted on 5/13/25 at 5:34 pm to
It's a new era and it's still sinking in that Kirby can lose out on his top offensive line recruit to somebody like Miami. The good ol' days are gone. There were a few seasons in a row there when we had five 5 star offensive linemen on the roster. Now we sort of have one (Freeling).

NIL has thrown a wrench in Kirby's masterplan, but no coach in college football is better at adapting and we'll be alright.
Posted by Kneehigh
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Posted on 5/13/25 at 5:55 pm to
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NIL has thrown a wrench in Kirby's masterplan, but no coach in college football is better at adapting and we'll be alright.

A lot of these kids want upfront guarantees and Kirby hasn’t adjusted to that nor do I think he will. I’m not sure what the landscape will be 10 years from now, and I doubt Kirby will stick around long enough to deal with this shite. Unless laws/rules/whatever are implemented and enforced, everyone that doesn’t spend big money is fricked.
Posted by claydawg09
Covington
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 5/13/25 at 6:04 pm to
I think he’s chosen not to but also can’t “adjust”. We don’t have the money some schools have but Kirby also knows paying freshmen upfront can divide a locker room (Texas A&M). We lost this one. It sucks. But on the whole I’m confident this class will be a great class just like all the others.
Posted by tylerdurden24
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Posted on 5/13/25 at 7:20 pm to
Posted by lewis and herschel
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Posted on 5/13/25 at 8:25 pm to
No freshman is worth more the a couple hundred thousand. From there they can let the market dictate.

This is just beyond stupid even for Miami
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This post was edited on 5/13/25 at 8:34 pm
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 5/14/25 at 6:48 am to
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This is just beyond stupid even for Miami


Some programs are, and always have been, more desperate for success than others. The ones paying stupid amounts of money for high profile recruits have a big overlap with the ones that used to have a reputation for cheating. Unfortunately for them (as schools like Tennessee should but won't learn), highly paid mercenaries aren't necessarily good team players.
Posted by Brick67
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/14/25 at 7:25 am to
Hearing his agent is a either a Miami alum or from Miami or both. Wonder if he created a price tag for UGA too high to drive Cantwell to "The U"? Did the agent manipulate the recruit to get him to his alma mater?
Posted by claydawg09
Covington
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Posted on 5/14/25 at 8:27 am to
According to Brooks Austin this had a lot to do with the legal case involving NIL right now. Basically Miami front-loaded his contract or downpayment if you will because the Deloit (spelling?) settlement will drastically change NIL payments. Basically Georgia was willing to pay him the same as Miami or Oregon or whoever in years 2 and 3 but wasn’t going to make a huge (5 mil reportedly) first year payment.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 5/14/25 at 9:00 am to
Seems he would have needed a massive, maybe insurmountable amount of derecruiting. Not just him but his entire entourage.
Posted by bigdawg7780
SC
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 5/14/25 at 12:45 pm to
His agent is Drew Rosenhaus NFL super agent based in Miami typical Jersey grease ball that went Da U in the 80s and 90s.
This post was edited on 5/14/25 at 12:47 pm
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
13486 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 2:00 pm to
Ya. It sure seems like next year will be different as far as the $ goes, but thats a guess. When you get agents involved they will do agent things. I’d wear a Gator shirt for a year if they gave my kid assurances of $5M in his first year.
Posted by Rex Feral
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 5/14/25 at 2:36 pm to
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I’d wear a Gator shirt for a year if they gave my kid assurances of $5M in his first year.


Sellout
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
14066 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 3:02 pm to
Would embrace playing teams like Wake and Duke in front of 10k for $5mill as well. Just math at that point.
Posted by Kneehigh
Low Country
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 5/14/25 at 5:29 pm to
Xavier Griffin de-commits from USC. We’ll see if we can get back in to his recruiting. Looks like Texas-OSU battle ATM.
Posted by Dawg4Life
South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 5/14/25 at 6:56 pm to
OSU is the supposed leader for Atkinson so maybe that’s the key domino.

Or we could just swing and miss on everyone and hope legislation gets us back into the game
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 5/15/25 at 8:52 am to
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Top prospects just cost a lot at that position.

The NFL agrees.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
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Posted on 5/16/25 at 9:59 am to
OL is also tricky in that there are not very many high-end transfers to date, and the consensus 5* high schoolers seem to work out at a high rate. The traits that make an NFL LT are pretty obvious, so those guys mostly get rated highly as high schoolers. I don’t think it’s reasonable to expect to have a top LT on the roster while staying disciplined on the NIL front. It’s possible a lower rated recruit transforms into that guy, but not likely. Very few 6’6” dudes with the frame and athleticism required to carry 330 lbs and still be agile, with long arms, etc. are slipping through the cracks at this point.

I get the drawbacks of paying a freshman so much, as well, so I’m not sure how I would approach it if I was Kirby.
This post was edited on 5/16/25 at 10:01 am
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
48250 posts
Posted on 5/16/25 at 10:02 am to
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I get the drawbacks of paying a freshman so much, as well, so I’m not sure how I would approach it if I was Kirby.


Do what’s he doing now, play the long con that regulation is coming one way or the other where teams like Miami are soon going to lose the ability to overspend their way through recruitments just to make a marketing splash in May. When the money levels out, Georgia will have a pedigree of achievement and development to sell at fair market value. Other schools will have to invest years into building up what they forsook because throwing money at the talent pool was a quicker fix
This post was edited on 5/16/25 at 10:03 am
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 5/16/25 at 10:02 am to
There isn't a lot of nuance to how important the OL is. Missing at a key position like LT can be worse than missing on a QB.

We used to discuss during the CMR days how we'd rather see a 3* QB + RB behind a 5* OL than a 5* QB/RB behind a 3* OL. It hasn't ever changed, but the mercenary mentality of talented HS players in desperate need of derecruiting has entered the equation now.
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