re: 2020 Recruiting Thread (SVP and Broderick Jones stay committed to the G)

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Will say that if we miss on Gilbert, it gives rise to a pretty damning narrative for our in state recruiting. I don’t think “staying home first” is as important as many do, but if we miss on the two best players in the state at our two biggest positions of need, it is a very shitty look.

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Not really... I think you're starting to lean into the "everything is a bad look" motif a bit too hard.

If we were to take Washington and Johnson for example over Arik, I wouldn't call that "missing" on Arik... If we missed on Arik and the best TE we got was Cam Large, then I'd say you had a point that it was a bad look. Choosing to go a different direction due to fit with the program, attitude, or whatever were to dictate it is fine.

The state's talent this year seems to be a little bit not the greatest fit for our openings. I'm probably more concerned that we were never even in the mix for Will Anderson, who I think is going to be a surprise OLB monster for Alabama. he was in the 400s up until this February, then started shooting up the rankings. He's not likely to catch up and end up in the top 50, but I think he's that talented. Ultimately, we got a stud at OLB in Sherman and we weren't likely to take another pure OLB anyways, but I don't feel like our coaches should get scooped on identifying Georgia talent like that (and maybe they weren't... we just knew what we had in the fire with Sherman already).

Otherwise, who in the top 10 are we upset about.
1) Murphy - You and I may disagree on the *degree* to which Tray Scott needs to prove himself, but I don't fault him too much on Murphy specifically. The kid believes he's a 4:3 DE... And they have a more recent track record of pushing dudes into the league on the DL. More concerned with losing Bresee due to the girlfriend factor. That feels like it could have been sold around (it's an hour and a half away or less... far enough to focus when you need to, close enough to enjoy both campuses as long as you stay together - and no need to worry if you split), particularly given that Clemson made some major missteps in his recruitment.

2) Arik - mentioned above

3) Broderick - dawg

4) Tank - seems to be ours if we decide we want him... probably?

5) Tate - dawg

6) Webb - OLB... not enough room at the inn

7) Hinton - Family seemingly doesn't believe in the SEC. Not concerned with 2 better in state OTs in the class

8) Steiner - athletic freak, but where would he play? Safety? ILB? He'd be a project for us...

9) Hudson - We need more 6'1" mediocre speed (4.88 40) receivers like we need a hole in our heads... I think at WR we've identified prototypes that we want and we're getting them. Rankings be damned.

10) Will Anderson (see above)


Outside the top 10 in state, We're still in it for Z Walker, Whitehead may still be right behind Sewell for the ILB slot.

Tech has my favorite in-state back committed - based on highlight film review - actually (Jahmyr Gibbs), but he likely wouldn't be able to crack the depth chart in Athens early anyways... but he has a sweet dead leg move similar to Swift's that just wrecks defenders. Worth a watch IMHO.

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I agree fully in regards to Cam Large. He seems like Brett Seither 2.0. Basically, a good player, but not good enough to take the spot from another potential impact guy at a different position.

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Yeah, that has been my issue. If we weren't tight on spaces with so many players wanting in... by all means. Take a talented blocker, but between staying under the ~25, and staying under 85... I just don't see how he contributes enough to be worth the slot? But again... the coaches will forget more than I ever know from football ins and outs to recruiting... Just feels like a wasted take unless we outright missed on all 3 of the elite grouping. And with Seither in the last class along with Goede... it just feels unnecessary.



Unrelated, but did anyone see the Dawgnation article talking about our backfield today? Apparently Kenny McIntosh has shaved .2 off his 40 yard time already since getting to campus (that would put him in the 4.6_s range... He's dropped 10 pounds. I'm excited to see how he develops. (will probably take this to the RB thread actually now that I think about it... but I'll leave it here as well.)

If you watch Kenny’s tape you can see his running form wasn’t the best and I knew when he got on campus that would improve. Damn I’m excited about this upcoming season.

We can agree to disagree...

Darnell Washington + Theo Johnson >>>>>>> Arik Gilbert + Cam Large

Arik Gilbert may be more polished *as a receiver* than Darnell Washington, but for what we need/want, I don't see that as a drop off at the position from Gilbert to Washington... if anything, you're bringing in a skillset that better complements what we need. And even from a ranking standpoint, DW > AG by 1...

I'll be more concerned about Murphy in hindsight if going forward we continue to have elite DE candidates avoid Athens due to a 4:3 vs 3:4 base defense... if that's the case, we need to do something about how we communicate to them about our substitution packages and break down the % of plays we run with 4 vs 3 DL vs the % of plays where a base 4:3 runs operates at 4 v 3... I think we all know that ratio isn't *that* different, simply because most teams actually have to operate out of the nickel more than they'd like these days. I think one dude having an "immovable opinion" regarding what is best for them is just not that big of a deal. If it's a trending excuse, then we got bigger problems.

I'm obviously not there for the recruitment, but why are we not getting Sam Pittman involved in some of these DL recruitments... pitch the "come practice against my baws... no chance you're gonna get more reps against a more talented OL anywhere else in the country kid..."

Well gawd dammit... if this class falls apart, it's on your arse.

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I do have some questions as to whether we can effectively use them

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This is why I'm not gonna get too hung up over TE recruiting... If Todd Hartley in year 1 can convince 2/3 of the best TEs in the country to pick UGA in spite of our lack of significant TE receptions/utilization... the man may deserve a fricking medal.

Then it becomes a bigger part of his job to lobby Coley for some fricking TE love.

Interestingly, we actually pass to tight ends more frequently as a percentage of the offense than either Bama or Clemson.

I’m not worried about the volume of TE usage, moreso the routes and passing concepts employed. Our offensive scheme is plain as unsalted grits.

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After the Murphy and Bresee debacle

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Calling that a debacle when they’re going to a team that just had 3 DL drafted in the first round and is coming off a Natty is so absurd to me.

It’s not like they went to Tech over us.

Same as any west coast kid: get him on campus and see where it goes. So far we’ve done wel with Milton and Ringo this cycle and Sewell has set up his OV

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NCDawg52

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Jesus Tapdancing Christ. You're not happy unless you're miserable, are you?

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Texas links?

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Good thing I waited because there is some gold on Lindberg. To be entirely fair there are also Texas fans calling out some of the people for being morons. Kinda like every fan base, with a lot of people who know football and some complete idiots who are very butthurt that we have gotten a couple recruits from Texas after they beat us in the Sugar Bowl.