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re: 2020 Recruiting Thread (SVP and Broderick Jones stay committed to the G)
Posted on 2/5/20 at 5:47 pm to fibonaccisquared
Posted on 2/5/20 at 5:47 pm to fibonaccisquared
It’s pretty fishy to say the least
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Posted on 2/5/20 at 5:49 pm to Damn Good Dawg
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So what's up Burch
Apparently he didn't want to hold Zach Evans's beer
Posted on 2/5/20 at 6:05 pm to Damn Good Dawg
But honestly, just enrolling, and bypassing the LOI process is the smart move for elite recruits. There's no use in doing anything you don't have to.
Posted on 2/5/20 at 6:11 pm to AmericusDawg
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But honestly, just enrolling, and bypassing the LOI process is the smart move for elite recruits. There's no use in doing anything you don't have to.
I couldnt agree more.
Worked for Roquan. I dont know why more dont do it.
Posted on 2/5/20 at 6:19 pm to AmericusDawg
That makes sense
Posted on 2/5/20 at 6:23 pm to AmericusDawg
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But honestly, just enrolling, and bypassing the LOI process is the smart move for elite recruits. There's no use in doing anything you don't have to.
I get what you are saying, but do you think schools are going to pass on really good recruits so they can hold an empty spot open for a kid who may not sign with them? I mean, Texas A&M, Georgia and LSU have all passed on Evans because they wanted to nail down a kid and not take a chance.
Posted on 2/5/20 at 6:30 pm to DawgsLife
It is a test. Schools say they have the kids interest at heart. Do they? The LOI doesnt give the kid anything. It gives everything to the university.
Posted on 2/5/20 at 6:31 pm to DawgsLife
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I get what you are saying, but do you think schools are going to pass on really good recruits so they can hold an empty spot open for a kid who may not sign with them? I mean, Texas A&M, Georgia and LSU have all passed on Evans because they wanted to nail down a kid and not take a chance.
With ESD, the current setup of rules, and kids bypassing the LOI process in the past, schools would be very foolish in not planning for this very situation.
Posted on 2/5/20 at 11:10 pm to AmericusDawg
I’m planning on doing something a little different with the 21 thread. If we don’t like it, we can delete that and start a new one.
Posted on 2/6/20 at 12:02 am to Dawgsontop34
HGMFs: The NSD Edition?
This post was edited on 2/6/20 at 12:04 am
Posted on 2/6/20 at 5:20 am to meansonny
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It is a test. Schools say they have the kids interest at heart.
I haven't seen this as it pertains to the recruitment of athletes.
quote:I get that. But the schools/football teams simply won't wait on the guys not knowing if they will enroll or not. If I am a coach, I am going to remember all the kids that flipped on signing day, and I will sign the kids who are willing to sign a LOI. I am not waiting on some of the kids to back out at the last minute and end up with a class of 20 kids instead of 25.
It gives everything to the university.
That's just me.
Posted on 2/6/20 at 5:24 am to AmericusDawg
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With ESD, the current setup of rules, and kids bypassing the LOI process in the past, schools would be very foolish in not planning for this very situation.
I agree, that they should plan for it. I just don't think you will see many kids do it. they lose their time in the spotlight, for one.
Now, they have cameras, school official, parents, and students fawning over them all day. If they just start showing up at schools to enroll they lose that, and it is important to kids.
Add to that, that a school is not going to just sit around and wait on kids. You will have kids showing up and someone has taken their spot. Then what does the kid do?
I just don't see it. We have kids that we have to tell we are full all the time.
Posted on 2/6/20 at 5:38 am to DawgsLife
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they lose their time in the spotlight, for one.
Disagree on this one.
Evan's spotlight will stretch out 5 more months.
A lot of mid to low 4 star kids spotlight was enhanced with the early signing class already in the fold.
I dont think kids should do it for attention. But they will inadvertently get attention being unsigned in March, April, and May. The fans of any and all potential schools will be drawn to any offseason news.
Posted on 2/6/20 at 5:53 am to meansonny
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A lot of mid to low 4 star kids spotlight was enhanced with the early signing class already in the fold.
But they would not have that spotlight if they were just going to show up to a school and enroll, would they?
Schools would have to recruit kids right up to the last minute. (Yes, they do that now, too) but let's use Broderick Jones and Sedrick Van pran as an example.
We are not sure they are going to go to UGA or flip at the last minute, so we continue to recruit players in case they do flip. The Plan B players show up to Georgia thinking they can enroll and they cannot on scholarship because Jones and Van Pran both enrolled. What is that kid going to do?
OR...we allow the Plan B players to enroll and then Jones or Van Pran shows up. Now we don't have room.
ETA
Maybe I am misunderstanding what y'all mean?
This post was edited on 2/6/20 at 5:55 am
Posted on 2/6/20 at 5:58 am to meansonny
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Evan's spotlight will stretch out 5 more months.
He also lost any chance of going to Texas A&M, Georgia, LSU. Those were his leaders just a few weeks before signing day. He now is looking at Ole Miss?
All three of those schools moved on because they did not want to take a chance on where he might go.
And remember...if a school does not honor the LOI, they lose that scholarship. It is used, unless both parties agree to be released from it and then the NCAA allows it. I doubt schools are going to disregard a LOI to a kid. As far as I know it hasn't happened yet.
Posted on 2/6/20 at 7:12 am to DawgsLife
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He also lost any chance of going to Texas A&M, Georgia, LSU. Those were his leaders just a few weeks before signing day. He now is looking at Ole Miss?
Are you responding to his spotlight or where he ends up?
It seems like you changed the subject.
His maturity affects the schools in play, imo. Not so much the timing. But the timing will make him relevant to recruiting sites and potential schools for 5 more months.
Posted on 2/6/20 at 7:13 am to DawgsLife
He lost that chance not sure to an underlined to sign an LOI, but other factors.
I guarantee you if Roquan were available (just HS version, not the obvious NFL talent) and didn't want to sign, while it might prevent a couple of schools from hanging and waiting, it wouldn't limit his options that much. Additionally, any coach who just got hired inevitable has one or two spots that will go unused in their first class, so easy "wait and see room".
I don't believe that many kids will start doing it, but it's absolutely within their rights and I don't believe that for highly rated recruits that it will detract from their options significantly.
I guarantee you if Roquan were available (just HS version, not the obvious NFL talent) and didn't want to sign, while it might prevent a couple of schools from hanging and waiting, it wouldn't limit his options that much. Additionally, any coach who just got hired inevitable has one or two spots that will go unused in their first class, so easy "wait and see room".
I don't believe that many kids will start doing it, but it's absolutely within their rights and I don't believe that for highly rated recruits that it will detract from their options significantly.
Posted on 2/6/20 at 12:18 pm to meansonny
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Are you responding to his spotlight or where he ends up?
It seems like you changed the subject.
Both, really. I mean, if kids just show up and want to enroll in the school of their choice that creates all kinds of problems. I mean, typically you have to apply to a school, then if accepted make all kinds of arrangements. If a kid just wants to forego the LOI and show up he gives up his spotlight moment of getting a formal signing in front of friends, family and classmates. Also, if he just shows up to a school without going through the LOI process and the school has already accepted it's limit of recruits he is out of luck and then has to scramble around trying to get another school to accept him.
quote:To a certain extent, yes. But if Evans wanted to go to LSU, Georgia or Texas A&M do you think schools would be trying to find a way to make the numbers work?
His maturity affects the schools in play, imo.
We flipped an Ole Miss kid at the last minute. What would happen if he told our coaches he wanted to come to us, then a much higher recruit (Burch, for instance) contacted our coaches and said he wanted to come to Georgia. The kid (Branch) comes to georgia and we tell him, sorry...we don't have room for you and we don't have a LOI from you, so you are out of luck.
Posted on 2/6/20 at 12:22 pm to fibonaccisquared
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He lost that chance not sure to an underlined to sign an LOI, but other factors.
Sure. I understand that, but signing day flips happen every year.
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Additionally, any coach who just got hired inevitable has one or two spots that will go unused in their first class, so easy "wait and see room".
I get that, but how many times do you think a team is going to hold a spot for a highly rated kid and then have that kid walk away because nothing binds him to the school?
It would happen once...maybe twice and everybody would start taking the kids who might not be rated as highly, but is ready to sign.
Look at the spot South Carolina and LSU is in right now. now think about that becoming the norm for all of the big schools.
Posted on 2/6/20 at 12:38 pm to DawgsLife
Depends on the circumstances and conditions involving whatever recruit and school involved.
Certainly won't be the norm, because the normal recruit isn't elite enough to hold out on. It's highly unlikely schools would give up on a blue chip they have a chance with, except possibly a QB. Definitely want that position secured as early on in the cycle.
Fact is every school would make room for a Roquan Smith and a Jordan Burch.
Certainly won't be the norm, because the normal recruit isn't elite enough to hold out on. It's highly unlikely schools would give up on a blue chip they have a chance with, except possibly a QB. Definitely want that position secured as early on in the cycle.
Fact is every school would make room for a Roquan Smith and a Jordan Burch.
This post was edited on 2/6/20 at 12:40 pm
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