re: tu and ou SEC request

There is a clause that ESPN pays more for more teams.

Also the people that run these schools and ADs aren’t morons and wouldn’t support cutting their own revenue lol

That’s why it’s not happening, wrap your mind around how much ESPN would have to pay for Oklahoma and Texas for everyone in the conference to get a financial boost. Think about it, our contracts would have to go up 50%, for Texas where they already have the TV market? For Oklahoma where the populations only 4 million? Do you really believe adding Texas and Oklahoma is worth 300 million a year? When we’re only getting 600 million a year for all the other 14 teams?

The math is easy to me, and I think cardboard boxers model of on-demand games is still a decade away. So I don’t think that will impact the cc decision. To give every team in the SEC a 10 million a year boost would require Oklahoma and Texas to increase the conferences TV contracts by $160,000,000 per year, I don’t think a 10 million a year boost would be enough to get the yes votes needed. So what would it take? I think it would take at least 20 million a year per team to get schools to let go of 100 year rivalries and traditions that they care about. And there’s no way there’s that much additional revenue created by the addition.

I feel like Arkansas is the swing vote here

As an LSU fan I want more information on the logistics before I truly decide how i feel. On the surface it’s exciting but if these means fricking up the schedule format even more and we end up with a pod system then I think I’ll pass.

I hated the European super league idea. This is kind of that same vibe just different culturally but with the same end game ($)

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The math is easy to me, and I think cardboard boxers model of on-demand games is still a decade away. So I don’t think that will impact the cc decision. To give every team in the SEC a 10 million a year boost would require Oklahoma and Texas to increase the conferences TV contracts by $160,000,000 per year, I don’t think a 10 million a year boost would be enough to get the yes votes needed. So what would it take? I think it would take at least 20 million a year per team to get schools to let go of 100 year rivalries and traditions that they care about. And there’s no way there’s that much additional revenue created by the addition.

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I quick google search says the Big 12 TV contract pays out $200 M a year on average. By taking OU and tu we can easily get the at 160 M so each team gets 10 M.

But that isn't the only thing. It grows the conference to a superpower. We (the SEC) can throw our weight around to basically get whatever we want. CFP wants to go to 12. We come in and say, no I want 16. I want each Pod winner and 2 wild cards guaranteed each year. The CFP can't tell us no, because we can go home and just play our own CFP between the pod winners.

I've wanted to keep playing Texas from the get go so it doesn't really bother me that much.

However, if those two join and A&M isn't playing Arkansas, LSU, and Texas every year it's going to be a bunch of straight up bullshite. The pod that SECN had up is awful. IDGAF about Miss St and Ole Miss. Playing them now and then is fine. Every year would be trash.

There are two sides of the pie. We talk about TV rights for games because that drove expansion last time, but this time it seems the money pot for the playoffs is where movement can also happen. Right now that money gets split all of over the place in a NCAA model, but if the top conferences break away or even just use their leverage to get more of that pie they increase their payout considerably.

Right now the Big 12 is a big problem for ESPN. The LHN is a waste, much of the other inventory has little national appeal, but mostly when talk flies around about “guaranteed playoff spots” in playoff expansion this zombie league would take a guaranteed slot in the big money maker aka the Big East at the end of the BCS. This drags down the benefit of playoff expansion.

With a “Power 4” a twelve team playoff gets way more bang for the buck. Eight teams play-in to get a shot at the conference champions, and this one event makes enough money to prop up not only the SEC but also ESPN’s other long term investments in college football. Streaming services are dipping into the safer NFL inventory, which means ESPN will eventually need college football as a primary cash cow when they can’t afford NFL rights anymore.

So ESPN is putting the money on the table you don’t see to improve their overall product and stay entrenched in the sport. I hope it’s not enough we all do but that is where the money is coming from to make this a hard choice.