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How Different is this Year if UCLA Ends 38-44

Posted on 11/14/17 at 1:52 pm
Posted by AggieDub14
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Posted on 11/14/17 at 1:52 pm
Let's just say we split the last two games at 1-1. Sumlin properly ran the clock down in the UCLA game, which didn't give Rosen enough time for his last TD. We still lose to Bama, State, and Auburn. And we lose to LSU but beat Ole Miss. Does Sumlin still get fired?

What if we beat LSU and go 9-3? How about then?

What if Starkel starts against Auburn and wins, getting us to 10-2?

Where is the line?

Disclaimer: This is purely speculative and for fun. Don't read too much into it.
This post was edited on 11/14/17 at 1:57 pm
Posted by Pitch To Johnny
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Posted on 11/14/17 at 2:00 pm to
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What if Starkel starts against Auburn and wins, getting us to 10-2?
Safe

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What if we beat LSU and go 9-3? How about then?
Probably safe. Would depend on who we lost to, and how bad.

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Where is the line?

Woodward drew a pretty clean line saying 8-4 wasn't good enough. Being extremely competitive in all 4 losses with some major setbacks would have been the only grey area to discuss.
This post was edited on 11/14/17 at 2:04 pm
Posted by AggieDub14
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Posted on 11/14/17 at 2:02 pm to
Bama, State, and Auburn. By the amounts we lost to them by.
Posted by Pitch To Johnny
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Posted on 11/14/17 at 2:05 pm to
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Bama, State, and Auburn. By the amounts we lost to them by.


In a vacuum I still say no. Played horribly at home vs. State, and blew a close game for the majority of the first half with Auburn.
Posted by Tridentds
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Posted on 11/14/17 at 2:19 pm to
Nice post and it's fun to speculate.

Actually how different is this year if Starkel doesn't get hurt? 9-3 is realistic. 10-2 might have been possible but a stretch for Sumlin.

Whoever coaches A&M next year is going to inherit some talent on both sides of the ball. Cupboard is not going to be bare by any stretch of the imagination.

Posted by AggieDub14
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Posted on 11/14/17 at 2:45 pm to
If Starkel is healthy, we could have won that Bama game. There's really no telling. UCLA would have been a W. So going into Mississippi State with a 7-0 record. Mond just looked so bad in that game.

Frick it, I'm just gonna go ahead and say we'd be the #1 team in the country right now

We wouldn't be though...
This post was edited on 11/14/17 at 2:46 pm
Posted by Tridentds
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Posted on 11/14/17 at 2:54 pm to
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Frick it, I'm just gonna go ahead and say we'd be the #1 team in the country right now


In the land of speculation... I"m IN!!!
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 11/14/17 at 3:03 pm to
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If Starkel is healthy, we could have won that Bama game. There's really no telling. UCLA would have been a W. So going into Mississippi State with a 7-0 record. Mond just looked so bad in that game.


Not sure if we win the 3 SEC losses but I do think the Auburn and Miss St games would have been a hell of a lot closer and that the Bama game wouldn't have come down to an onside kick. UCLA absolutely would have been a win.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
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Posted on 11/14/17 at 3:27 pm to
Let's assume for a sec that Sumlin didn't inexplicably pull Starkel in the second quarter:

At the time Starkel was pulled, it was 24-3 A&M.

Mond's first series was a 3 and out (foreshadowing). The ONLY reason A&M scored on his second series was because of two LONG runs by Mond on 3rd down.

It could be reasonably assumed that, the way Starkel was performing leading the offense, had he remained in the game until halftime, the halftime score is 45-10 A&M.

at THIS point, you then let Mond play the 2nd half without an injured starter and allow him to maintain the lead with safe plays. (Starkel was injured at the 10 minute mark of the 3rd quarter when Mazzone decided NOT TO RUN THE BALL EVERY PLAY)

The game probably ends 51-24, Starkel isn't hurt and you are 5-0 going into the Alabama game with a solid starter and a solid backup allowed to gain confidence at his own pace.
This post was edited on 11/14/17 at 3:29 pm
Posted by AggieDub14
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Posted on 11/14/17 at 3:31 pm to
So familiar territory huh?

Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
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Posted on 11/14/17 at 3:33 pm to
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So familiar territory huh?


Well, we wouldn't have to shuffle the offensive line around every series to mask the quarterback deficiencies... (make no mistake about it, that's why Turner was doing that)
Posted by Projectpat
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Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 11/14/17 at 3:36 pm to
If we beat UCLA, the melt would have been even harder as it would have followed the exact same pattern as last year. We’d have gone into the Bama game as a top 10 team, played respectably, and kept the ranking going into Miss St. Then we get embarrassed by Miss St and Auburn and plummet out of the rankings.
Posted by The Balinese Club
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Posted on 11/14/17 at 3:37 pm to
This * 1000!

Sumlin's in game management, along with his play calling are his undoing. This is exactly why he needs to be fired. He simply cannot manage his talent or manage a game.

Time to move on.
Posted by AggieDub14
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Posted on 11/14/17 at 3:38 pm to
Damn it feels good to be a basketball school.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
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Posted on 11/14/17 at 3:40 pm to
I don't think we would have lost to Mississippi State. Auburn maybe.

Keep in mind, Mississippi State only led 14-0 at the half despite how HORRIBLE the offense was.
This post was edited on 11/14/17 at 3:41 pm
Posted by Mr. Elvert
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Posted on 11/14/17 at 4:11 pm to
This team is 9-1 or 8-2 right now if they sign Stidham.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 11/14/17 at 4:16 pm to
Probably 8-2 but a very ugly 8-2 that could still end 9-3. Our defense is not good and Stidham doesn't fix that.
Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 11/14/17 at 4:30 pm to
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the exact same pattern as last year.


We have a much better defense this year. Much better.
Posted by finestfirst79
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 11/14/17 at 5:13 pm to
"If ifs and buts were candy and nuts we'd all have a merry Christmas". -- Don Meredith, wise man

But... yeah, why the hell not:
quote:

Frick it, I'm just gonna go ahead and say we'd be the #1 team in the country right now
This post was edited on 11/14/17 at 5:14 pm
Posted by Spirit Of Aggieland
Houston
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 11/14/17 at 5:30 pm to
9-3 is the line
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