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re: Better late than never...
Posted on 6/22/16 at 1:31 pm to Roger Klarvin
Posted on 6/22/16 at 1:31 pm to Roger Klarvin
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No
So how would we be better positioned to succeed with worse players?
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Posted on 6/22/16 at 1:32 pm to NanosTacoRun
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our national rep is clearly better than at any other point in the last 20 years
Disgaree, unless "better" is defined solely as "more relevant".
We are absolutely more relevant on the national stage than we have ever been. The mistake some make is believing the lie that any press is good press.
Posted on 6/22/16 at 1:33 pm to NanosTacoRun
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Malik, Lodge, Little, Hudson, even Daylon and kyler... all that went down before the QB transfer stuff became a problem. And it all stemmed from an inability to produce on the field and control things off.
Fair enough. I can't deny more win 2013-2015 would have us in better shape right now.
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Auburn is just as conservative as A&M, and they're miles ahead of us as a program, because they understand big boy football
Meh, before Cam Auburn wandered in the desert for decades with varying amounts of success. They got screwed in 2004 because no one considered them to be a "power" at the time.
I see Auburn as basically an A&M where their Johnny won a national title. Up until recently I would have also given them credit for not being as stupid with contract extensions, but given that Malzahn just got one it makes me question how much they understand "big boy football."
Posted on 6/22/16 at 1:34 pm to Roger Klarvin
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Disgaree, unless "better" is defined solely as "more relevant".
When was the last time we had a better national rep, in your opinion?
Posted on 6/22/16 at 1:35 pm to Roger Klarvin
We are toxic only in your mind
Posted on 6/22/16 at 1:36 pm to NanosTacoRun
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So how would we be better positioned to succeed with worse players?
First of all, the 2012 and 2013 classes were complete flops. Second, better coaching could do more with worse players. Finally, our reputation for dysfunction, harboring poor behavior and being synonymous with an infamous alcoholic NFL trainwreck might be different.
Posted on 6/22/16 at 1:37 pm to Roger Klarvin
Take away Kyler and Kyle and we have no bad press
You are full out melting and I'm still not sure why
You are full out melting and I'm still not sure why
Posted on 6/22/16 at 1:38 pm to NanosTacoRun
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When was the last time we had a better national rep, in your opinion?
Better in terms of less negative? Any point between the Sherrill stuff blowing over and the Summer of 2013.
Posted on 6/22/16 at 1:41 pm to Old Sarge
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Take away Kyler and Kyle and we have no bad press
Kyle
Kyler
Hill
Manziel
Claiborne
Golden
Tate (and the subsequent Twitter melt/our shocking decommit rate in general)
The recruiting narrative Texas is successfully pushing
And so on
Posted on 6/22/16 at 1:41 pm to cardboardboxer
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Meh, before Cam Auburn wandered in the desert for decades with varying amounts of success. They got screwed in 2004 because no one considered them to be a "power" at the time.
I see Auburn as basically an A&M where their Johnny won a national title. Up until recently I would have also given them credit for not being as stupid with contract extensions, but given that Malzahn just got one it makes me question how much they understand "big boy football."
In the last 60 years, we have 2 top 5 finishes. Auburn has NINE!
We have 8 top 10 finishes. Auburn has 18.
Posted on 6/22/16 at 1:42 pm to Roger Klarvin
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better coaching could do more with worse players.
Like Chavis? Mazzone? Turner?
Posted on 6/22/16 at 1:42 pm to Roger Klarvin
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Any point between the Sherrill stuff blowing over and the Summer of 2013.
Uh, that period when our AD went bankrupt and we had to loan money from the school and they fired our school president because she wouldn't sign off on it was a WAY worse than right now. WAY worse.
Posted on 6/22/16 at 1:43 pm to Old Sarge
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We are toxic only in your mind
All the national articles and media discussions of our turmoil completely discredits that.
Posted on 6/22/16 at 1:46 pm to Old Sarge
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Like Chavis? Mazzone? Turner?
I'm skeptical of Mazzone, but sure lets go ahead and say he's a stud. If Sumlin is a poor CEO and needs established, elite coordinators making top dollar at every position why are we paying him $5 million? Any number of marginal coaches could do the same and with better character.
Great coaches generally get up and coming assistants jobs. We hire great assistants for top dollar to save our coaches job.
Posted on 6/22/16 at 1:46 pm to Roger Klarvin
You know where that originated, those forces aren't just fabricated Aggie paranoia. But in a whisp of wind those perceptions change
Far from toxic
Far from toxic
Posted on 6/22/16 at 1:48 pm to Roger Klarvin
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Any point between the Sherrill stuff blowing over and the Summer of 2013.
Were you actually around for the Fran/Sherman eras? We were an absolute joke. Even during the final days of RC, we were nobodies.
Posted on 6/22/16 at 1:48 pm to Roger Klarvin
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Great coaches generally get up and coming assistants jobs. We hire great assistants for top dollar to save our coaches job.
Have you seen the assistants salary list for Bama?
Posted on 6/22/16 at 1:48 pm to cardboardboxer
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Uh, that period when our AD went bankrupt and we had to loan money from the school and they fired our school president because she wouldn't sign off on it was a WAY worse than right now. WAY worse.
None of that had any impact at a national level. Literally nobody outside of A&M knew or cared. Ask the rant how many know about this vs know about Kyler, Allen, Sumlin's alcoholism, Manziel's pandering, etc.
The issue here is national perception.
Posted on 6/22/16 at 1:50 pm to NanosTacoRun
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Were you actually around for the Fran/Sherman eras? We were an absolute joke
We were irrelevant, now we're a national punchline. People are holding our program up as a means of showing "Well,it could be worse".
Give me the former
This post was edited on 6/22/16 at 1:51 pm
Posted on 6/22/16 at 1:51 pm to Old Sarge
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You know where that originated
I do, and we gave the ammunition and opportunity.
We had the Texas athletic machine dead to rights and decided we didnt like it.
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