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re: Better late than never...
Posted on 6/22/16 at 4:47 pm to Texas Gentleman
Posted on 6/22/16 at 4:47 pm to Texas Gentleman
I'm not pissing 
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Posted on 6/22/16 at 5:15 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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No we didn't. Fran milked that 2003 class until the bitter end. Let's look at the MULTIPLE-SEASON starters from that class. Justin Warren (2003-2006) Jason Jack (2004-2006) Mike Montgomery (2003-2004) Corey Clark (2005-2007) Melvin Bullitt (2003-2006) Cody Wallace (2004-2007) Earvin Taylor (2004-2007) Chris Yoder (2004-2007) Kirk Elder (2005-2007) Red Bryant (2004-2007) Joey Thomas (2004-2007) Chris Harrington (2004-2007) Now look at the 2004 Class Stephen McGee (2005-2007) DeQawn Mobley (2004-2005) Danny Gorrer (2005-2008) Kerry Franks (2004-2007) Lee Foliaki (2005-2007) Grant Dickey (2006-2007) Cyril Obiozor (2005-2008) Yemi Babalola (2005-2007) Travis Schneider (2006-2008)
Whoa. Great observation. Basically everyone who contributed during Fran's tenure, aside from Reggie McNeal, came from the '03 class.
Posted on 6/22/16 at 6:34 pm to Cooter Davenport
Did yemi really last 3 years? Thought he was gone sooner.
Posted on 6/22/16 at 6:42 pm to NanosTacoRun
Those last 3 Fran classes really sucked. Still kicked arse with them on NCAA though.
Posted on 6/22/16 at 6:54 pm to NanosTacoRun
As delusional as we can be even today, our delusion during the '00s was astronomical, especially in the face of the whorns winning 10+ games a season for a decade. God damn that was a dark time to be an Aggie football fan.
Also, Sumlin's gotta win 9 this year I think. Anything less and he will get canned. Makes the season a bit easier to follow I think; not much point in thinking about the future. Either we get optimism from a better-than-expected season or we get the excitement that comes from a new coach.
Also, Sumlin's gotta win 9 this year I think. Anything less and he will get canned. Makes the season a bit easier to follow I think; not much point in thinking about the future. Either we get optimism from a better-than-expected season or we get the excitement that comes from a new coach.
This post was edited on 6/22/16 at 6:55 pm
Posted on 6/22/16 at 8:57 pm to agalloch
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As delusional as we can be even today, our delusion during the '00s was astronomical, especially in the face of the whorns winning 10+ games a season for a decade. God damn that was a dark time to be an Aggie football fan.
Yeah it was pretty ridiculous looking back at it. But blind optimism is part of the fun. Take that away and what's left?
This post was edited on 6/22/16 at 9:01 pm
Posted on 6/22/16 at 9:18 pm to agalloch
Are we certain we'd pay sumlin $20 million to go away if he goes 8-4?
According to football outsiders, we play the 3rd hardest schedule in the nation. Their numbers say a "good" team would have 5 losses, on average, with our schedule.
According to football outsiders, we play the 3rd hardest schedule in the nation. Their numbers say a "good" team would have 5 losses, on average, with our schedule.
Posted on 6/22/16 at 9:30 pm to NanosTacoRun
That doesn't make any sense. 5 losses would mean losing to every decent team on our schedule (UCLA, Bama, Tenessee, Ole Miss and LSU). We could go 7-5 without beating a single team in the preseason top-30. That doesn't make you a good team.
Posted on 6/22/16 at 10:04 pm to Roger Klarvin
Arkansas and Mississippi St are both rated higher than us, and Auburn just behind us. We play 8 top 30 teams, most in the nation, and it has a "good" team (#16-30 in their methodology) going 3-5 in those games.
An average team (#50-70) goes 4-8, and an elite team (#1-5) goes 10-2.
An average team (#50-70) goes 4-8, and an elite team (#1-5) goes 10-2.
This post was edited on 6/22/16 at 10:08 pm
Posted on 6/22/16 at 10:09 pm to NanosTacoRun
That's all according to projected FEI ratings
https://www.bcftoys.com/2016-sos/
https://www.bcftoys.com/2016-fei/
https://www.bcftoys.com/2016-sos/
https://www.bcftoys.com/2016-fei/
This post was edited on 6/22/16 at 10:13 pm
Posted on 6/22/16 at 10:34 pm to NanosTacoRun
Oh no! You gave Roger facts... 
Posted on 6/23/16 at 12:51 am to NanosTacoRun
Anyone who has us behind Arkansas and MSU isn't worth talking about anyway. I don't care what formula they use. I don't have any expectations for this year, but MSU is staring 5-7 in the face and Arkansas lost more starting production than any other team in the SEC including Bama. There is no reason to have then in the top 40 nationally.
This post was edited on 6/23/16 at 12:55 am
Posted on 6/23/16 at 1:13 am to Roger Klarvin
They've both finished well ahead of us the last two years. That plays a big part in the projections, but returning players and recruiting classes are also factored in.
I won't be surprised to see one, if not both, teams ahead of us in most predictions that come out.
I won't be surprised to see one, if not both, teams ahead of us in most predictions that come out.
Posted on 6/23/16 at 1:16 am to NanosTacoRun
And I'm not saying it's the gospel or that we aren't better than either team. I'm just pointing out how difficult our schedule is, and that it should be taken into account when judging our record.
If sumlin gets fired for going 8-4, he only has himself to blame. But he could have a good team in year 5 that ends up going 8-4 and that wouldn't necessarily be a sign he can't get it done. I would have expected more out of him at that point, but I could see arguments for keeping him.
If sumlin gets fired for going 8-4, he only has himself to blame. But he could have a good team in year 5 that ends up going 8-4 and that wouldn't necessarily be a sign he can't get it done. I would have expected more out of him at that point, but I could see arguments for keeping him.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 8:07 pm to NanosTacoRun
Re: my original thoughts that started this thread...I feel like the QB recruiting for 2017 is another example of sumlin learning from his past mistakes
For the '15 class, he had a choice to go after Kyler, an undersized QB with a presumed recruiting prowess that no one could blame you for taking, or Stidham, a more projectable QB that might not offer the same recruiting boost.
Sumlin chose Kyler and the rest is history.
Fast forward 24 months and Sumlin has almost the exact same choice. Tate, the undersized QB with a presumed recruiting prowess that no one could blame you for taking, or Kellen, a more projectable QB that might not offer the same recruiting boost.
We won't know how the story ends for a couple of years, but at least for now I'm glad that Sumlin & Mazzone displayed better judgment, cutting ties with a guy who doesn't really fit what we're trying to do.
For the '15 class, he had a choice to go after Kyler, an undersized QB with a presumed recruiting prowess that no one could blame you for taking, or Stidham, a more projectable QB that might not offer the same recruiting boost.
Sumlin chose Kyler and the rest is history.
Fast forward 24 months and Sumlin has almost the exact same choice. Tate, the undersized QB with a presumed recruiting prowess that no one could blame you for taking, or Kellen, a more projectable QB that might not offer the same recruiting boost.
We won't know how the story ends for a couple of years, but at least for now I'm glad that Sumlin & Mazzone displayed better judgment, cutting ties with a guy who doesn't really fit what we're trying to do.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 9:08 pm to NanosTacoRun
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Sumlin chose Kyler and the rest is history.
he kind of really didn't have a choice.
the fanbase would have gone insane had he ignored Kyler for Stidham.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 9:35 pm to Dr RC
He sure as hell had a choice. A difficult one, no doubt, but still a choice.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 9:51 pm to NanosTacoRun
Rc is right
Sumlin doesn't go all out for Kevin fricking Murray's kid who is a 5 star phenom and its career suicide
Sumlin doesn't go all out for Kevin fricking Murray's kid who is a 5 star phenom and its career suicide
Posted on 6/27/16 at 10:00 pm to Old Sarge
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its career suicide
Signing Kyler was career suicide (if not for a fully guaranteed contract)
This post was edited on 6/27/16 at 10:01 pm
Posted on 6/27/16 at 10:07 pm to NanosTacoRun
No one knew that
We all celebrated signing him
We all celebrated signing him
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