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re: Why would DGB go to Bama or Texas...
Posted on 12/25/11 at 3:39 pm to ocelot4ark
Posted on 12/25/11 at 3:39 pm to ocelot4ark
Or him could come to Alabama, where there's actually been a 1st round WR lately.
Posted on 12/25/11 at 3:46 pm to swordfishtrombone
Chris Redman didn't get drafted in the 2nd round, and no it is not the same system. That system was more like Houston's than anything.
Not even close. They run a HUNH, we run a power spread with majority pro-style sets, which is what most NFL teams run now-a-days. The NFL isn't Power-I football anymore. Patriots, Green Bay, Carolina, Houston, Pittsburgh, San Diego, New Orleans, etc run very similar offenses to us.
Hupel was system QB. White was not, Bradford and Jones are not. White didn't have a NFL future because of his knees, Bradford just won ROY in the NFL last year, and Jones is projected to go in the Top 15 next year.
Gabbert, Keenum, Kaepernick, etc are/were system QB's.
You act like our WR's were 2-stars diamond in the rough coming out of HS. All of our top WR's had big offers or were highly rated out of HS.
You can call it a system if you like, but we aren't having any problems recruiting to it.
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Oklahoma runs a multiple offense just like Arkansas
Not even close. They run a HUNH, we run a power spread with majority pro-style sets, which is what most NFL teams run now-a-days. The NFL isn't Power-I football anymore. Patriots, Green Bay, Carolina, Houston, Pittsburgh, San Diego, New Orleans, etc run very similar offenses to us.
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and they have system QBs put up big numbers all the time (White, Huepel, Bradford, Jones).
Hupel was system QB. White was not, Bradford and Jones are not. White didn't have a NFL future because of his knees, Bradford just won ROY in the NFL last year, and Jones is projected to go in the Top 15 next year.
Gabbert, Keenum, Kaepernick, etc are/were system QB's.
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That doesn't mean that your WR unit isn't very talented, it just means that Bobby Petrino is the reason they are successful.
You act like our WR's were 2-stars diamond in the rough coming out of HS. All of our top WR's had big offers or were highly rated out of HS.
You can call it a system if you like, but we aren't having any problems recruiting to it.
Posted on 12/25/11 at 3:49 pm to memphisplaya
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We have 4 CB's that shut down those 4 wr's that would have been primaries for 85% of college football. Apparently your offense is just a system offense and when you face a gear defense your system wr's are neutralized.
I'm sure not having a steady running game this year had nothing to do with that.
Posted on 12/25/11 at 5:27 pm to swordfishtrombone
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Sorry dude, but it is a system. It's the system that got CHRIS REDMAN drafted in the 2nd round. That doesn't mean that your WR unit isn't very talented, it just means that Bobby Petrino is the reason they are successful. Oklahoma runs a multiple offense just like Arkansas, and they have system QBs put up big numbers all the time (White, Huepel, Bradford, Jones). It doesn't have to be a spread offense from shotgun all the time to be considered a system.
Kind of like how Saban's system makes Running Backs look better than they are?
Posted on 12/25/11 at 5:54 pm to memphisplaya
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We have 4 CB's that shut down those 4 wr's that would have been primaries for 85% of college football. Apparently your offense is just a system offense and when you face a gear defense your system wr's are neutralized.
You honestly don't think a 100% Childs, Hamilton, Adams, and Wright wouldn't have been starters on the majority of college football teams? I'm not saying they are amazing but they are solid receivers that would start for the majority of college football teams. You can't honestly disagree with that can you?

Posted on 12/25/11 at 6:07 pm to ehole
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the development of julio vs randle says exactly why top wr's should not consider lsu
Exactly. Dude was supposed to be on AJ Green & Julio's level.
Posted on 12/25/11 at 7:38 pm to Bellabama
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LSU fans are going to be sad when Mettenberger turns out to be a mere human.
Truer words were never written. I've been saying all year that if Mett was so great he'd be starting this year at the weakest position on our team.
Posted on 12/25/11 at 10:12 pm to CtotheVrzrbck
The LSU part of this argument is completely off base. We shouldn't be included in any argument that is based on good qb play and passing. That will change some with Mett but not a guarantee so it's not really relevant to DGB.
Mett doesn't have to be all world at LSU. For those that think that is what most LSU fans expect you don't comprehend the complete ineptness of our qbs for the last 4 years. There have been flashes but no consistency. We just want a QB that we can have some confidence in when he drops back to pass and have hope that we can convert when forced to pass. Mett has that kind of ability. He's a better pure passer than JJ or JL and is much more confident in his passing ability. We don't need or expect all world from Mett. Solid will beat everyone on the schedule.
I understand the sentiment of the Arkansas argument over Texas in regards to the passing game but honestly after Wilson's final year next year who can Arky sell as the qb? Mitchell! Allen! Neither are any more proven than the Texas qbs. Basically aside from 1 year there's only 1 difference and that's style of offense but that loses some luster because Harsin at Texas has a history of passing the ball a lot and well. They looked a lot like LSU the past 4 years this season with their ineffectiveness at QB. They're still not sure if Ash or McCoy will develop and most are thinking Brewer will be the answer in a couple of years. From the outside and without really digging Arky is the obvious choice over Texas but in reality after Wilson neither can say they have a proven qb.
Mett doesn't have to be all world at LSU. For those that think that is what most LSU fans expect you don't comprehend the complete ineptness of our qbs for the last 4 years. There have been flashes but no consistency. We just want a QB that we can have some confidence in when he drops back to pass and have hope that we can convert when forced to pass. Mett has that kind of ability. He's a better pure passer than JJ or JL and is much more confident in his passing ability. We don't need or expect all world from Mett. Solid will beat everyone on the schedule.
I understand the sentiment of the Arkansas argument over Texas in regards to the passing game but honestly after Wilson's final year next year who can Arky sell as the qb? Mitchell! Allen! Neither are any more proven than the Texas qbs. Basically aside from 1 year there's only 1 difference and that's style of offense but that loses some luster because Harsin at Texas has a history of passing the ball a lot and well. They looked a lot like LSU the past 4 years this season with their ineffectiveness at QB. They're still not sure if Ash or McCoy will develop and most are thinking Brewer will be the answer in a couple of years. From the outside and without really digging Arky is the obvious choice over Texas but in reality after Wilson neither can say they have a proven qb.
Posted on 12/25/11 at 10:17 pm to lsufanva
Bobby Petrino is our coach, we'll have a QB ready for 2013.
Posted on 12/25/11 at 10:22 pm to Woopigsooie20
Petrino to Texas, tells team via carrier pigeon...
Posted on 12/25/11 at 10:25 pm to lsufanva
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after Wilson's final year next year who can Arky sell
Alot of people thought there would be a huge drop off from Mallett to Wilson. There wasn't I expect Brandon Allen to be the next QB then possibly Austin Allen.
Posted on 12/25/11 at 11:15 pm to RMFTide
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don't be stupid.
To be fair your definition of a system was any offense that puts up big numbers. We run an offense that is identical to several NFL Offenses. The reason it is so effective is that petrino and the coaches on offense are excellent teachers. This is very similar to how Saban is with CBs and defense as a whole.
Posted on 12/26/11 at 8:04 am to oklahogjr
The plan is DGB will commit to AU this week then Saban will flip him on signing day...
Posted on 12/26/11 at 4:30 pm to Herman Frisco
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The plan is DGB will commit to AU this week then Saban will flip him on signing day...

Posted on 12/27/11 at 1:37 am to JLock
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Allen is a Top 5 QB recruit that will be over 2 years into Petrino's system.
Just like Mallett to Wilson, there will be no drop off.
And the way Petrino talks about Allen, might be better than both before him.
Arkieis a much better choice based on how well WR's are utilized within the passing attack, and the amount of success over the last 2 years while Texas is 12-12 in a now even weaker Big 12.
Allen is a Top 5 QB recruit that will be over 2 years into Petrino's system.
Just like Mallett to Wilson, there will be no drop off.
And the way Petrino talks about Allen, might be better than both before him.
Arkieis a much better choice based on how well WR's are utilized within the passing attack, and the amount of success over the last 2 years while Texas is 12-12 in a now even weaker Big 12.
Posted on 12/27/11 at 7:42 pm to ehole
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the development of julio vs randle says exactly why top wr's should not consider lsu
I'm hoping the post Lee/Jefferson era changes that along with the huge upgrade from Crowton. The problem has never been WR talent it's been the ability to get it there. FWIW I think he goes to OU, just a guess.
Posted on 12/27/11 at 8:03 pm to Stonehog
quote:Arkansas fans like to really overrate their receivers.
But at Arkansas he will learn how to be an Nfl receiver, won't get that at Lsu. Believe it or not, some people care about making money and supporting their family. Going to a Bcs game with Lsu accomplishes neither.
Posted on 12/27/11 at 8:15 pm to Louie T
Having the best group in the SEC, and possibly Nation was an exaggeration I guess.
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