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Meanwhile Trump has the government buying stakes in private countries. Is Trump a socialist?
That’s an excellent question. I would answer, No, but he trends towards it.
ETA: One of the uncomfortable truths a lot of American conservatives will have to come to grips with is that socialism is not just an ideology of the left but has historical antecedents on the right as well.
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re: Trump has a Catch 22 on his hands
Posted by Penrod on 6/28/26 at 5:47 am to SallysHuman
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One poorly written or poorly received… I’ll take the L.
No L for you. I understood what you meant, and you are correct. There is a growing cohort of Americans who think socialism is great.
It’s important to distinguish socialism from communism, which are two different variants of collectivism. The other form of collectivism we need to understand is fascism.
Communism is dead and buried. It failed so miserably, and has such obvious utopian contradictions, that the world’s intelligentsia disavowed it as early as the 1940s.
True socialism - meaning a planned economy and government seizure of the means of production - was the fallback position for the world’s communists. This was tried in the late 1940s by a number of countries - Sweden and Britain most notably. Both had to turn back to capitalism when they were unable to match its “invisible hand” with central planning.
Now we have “Democratic-Socialism” which is the next fallback position. They will seize just a few industries (of course once they get the bit between their teeth they won’t be able to stop), and they will radically redistribute wealth towards the unproductive.
All socialism, of the left and the right, leads to authoritarianism. And democratic-socialism is a condition that can only last until it is firmly established. At that point the obvious economic failures of socialism will lead to the demos rejecting it. At that point the socialists must reject either the socialism (as Britain and Sweden did) or the democracy (as Russia, China and Cuba did).
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What you're talking about is the Democratic Socialist party, who until the MAGA era were rightly regarded as mainstream moderates; centrist.
The Democrat-Socialists want the government to seize industries and control the means of production. That is NOT moderate - not in America.
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U sure?
Not really :lol:
re: Only 13 Democrats out of 259 in Congress put their signature down opposing socialism.
Posted by Penrod on 6/27/26 at 8:15 pm to RohanGonzales
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What is funny is that democrats almost always vote in ;lockstep
They infight about the same amount as republicans. When Biden tried to pass a three trillion dollar bill Manchon and Sinema stopped it.
Probably because they were installed during the ceasefire. The Iranians weren't just fricking goats all that time.
re: UFC Fighter reacts to backlash of calling Michelle Obama a ‘man,’ says it was compliment
Posted by Penrod on 6/27/26 at 7:46 pm to jimmy the leg
Haha. There are GIFs for everything.
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Now, do you think it's democrats who flip flopped based on gasoline prices? No, independents. Democrats will never approve of Trump even if he is the best president we have ever had. But Democrat voters ARE stupid for voting for Democrats. That was my point.
That would have been a reasonable post if that's all there was to it. But there was a gratuitous insult, which implied disagreement. So I explained why it was more than just democrats. And because you descended to it, I added an ad hominem component.
re: I have a ? for Elon. If AI+Optimus make us 100x more productive, why we need more humans?
Posted by Penrod on 6/27/26 at 7:41 pm to Meauxjeaux
You have a good point. Maybe it's not a problem.
re: UFC Fighter reacts to backlash of calling Michelle Obama a ‘man,’ says it was compliment
Posted by Penrod on 6/27/26 at 3:15 pm to jimmy the leg
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Do you really think that either of those two guys read this board?
That makes no difference, fig.
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Democrat voters are, Nimrod.
It is tiresome educating mouthbreathing morons like you, but here goes.
Trump's popularity just see-sawed with gasoline prices. Do you think that's a smart way to judge a president? Now, do you think it's democrats who flip flopped based on gasoline prices?
If you still don't get it I could complete the picture for you, but you'll learn best if you do a little bit of the work. You can do it, Tigersbh!
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Mainly old unmarried white women.
I don’t know; that doesn’t seem like a large enough demographic.
Here is one for you - Stanford lecturer on EVs taking over
Go through that presentation if you want some laughs.
Spoiler alert: Oil is in free fall now (and since 2023). They are shutting down wells and you can’t give away your gasoline powered vehicle. :lol:
Go through that presentation if you want some laughs.
Spoiler alert: Oil is in free fall now (and since 2023). They are shutting down wells and you can’t give away your gasoline powered vehicle. :lol:
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Thank you for this. It made my day. Bunch of clowns!
Thank you for this. It made my day. Bunch of clowns!
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Obama looks at you merely as her oppressor.
No doubt, but not the point.
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Missle and drone storage sights I get we could miss a few but how did we miss bombing a coastal radar site from our initial attack?
Maybe they set it up during the interminable cease fire.
re: Two months ago something happened to Idaho that nobody's talking about enough...
Posted by Penrod on 6/26/26 at 9:50 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Trying to use government to fix the problems created by government is leftism
Fine, then do nothing. I was giving you a government solution that was less intrusive than the one you seem to like. I don’t think the state should do either.
Since you played the “leftism” card, it is a conservative value (actually a classical liberal value) to devolve government as close to the people as possible.
re: Two months ago something happened to Idaho that nobody's talking about enough...
Posted by Penrod on 6/26/26 at 9:37 pm to SlowFlowPro
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The control is limiting housing supply and intentionally using government to prop up housing values.
This problem has become incredibly acute in certain areas. It's not just NYC or SF anymore, either.
Go build elsewhere. The state government could use eminent domain to buy land just outside of an incorporated area and build shitty neighborhoods there.
re: World Cup: Egyptian and Iranian teams will leave if forced to promote LGBTQ
Posted by Penrod on 6/26/26 at 9:35 pm to jimmy the leg
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I would suggest that most people are also sick of pride month because of what it has turned into.
I was sick of it before it turned into anything.
re: Two months ago something happened to Idaho that nobody's talking about enough...
Posted by Penrod on 6/26/26 at 9:25 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Again, allows (not mandates) more housing development
You are either being dense or trolling. This takes away the ability for local communities to control their community. You ask if it is NIMBYism. Yes, do you have a problem with people saying, “I don’t want overcrowding in my neighborhood”?
There is a lot of empty land out there. Go build your own shitty community instead of ruining the ones we have cultivated.
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And you stand by and watch it happen because your morals don’t extend to white conservatives.
No. My political orientation is clearly conservative, and I am white. I did not feel the need to defend Erica Kirk on this website because she was more than adequately defended. Had I been on reddit I would have knighted for Erica Kirk and ignored the vastly outnumbered weirdos who bullied Michelle Obama or Mrs. Macron.
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