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re: Our recruiters are straight-up embarrassing

Posted on 2/5/20 at 1:50 pm to
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27298 posts
Posted on 2/5/20 at 1:50 pm to
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The only coaches at Florida who have out recruited Mullen are Meyer and Zook


What? Muschamp had 2 top 5 classes and Spurrier had top 5's before his NC's
Posted by dallasga6
Scrap Metal Magnate...
Member since Mar 2009
25664 posts
Posted on 2/5/20 at 1:51 pm to
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Spurrier may have beaten FSU in recruiting once or twice during Bowden's tenure. And that was after he won big.
You know what he always loved? That Georgia was always signing the great classes and he was still kicking their asses.

Here is a quote from him.

On Georgia recruiting: "Why is it that during recruiting season they sign all the great players, but when it comes time to play the game, we have all the great players? I don't understand that. What happens to them?"


Spurrier ain't walking the sidelines in 2020, Mullens is...

Your #8 2020 class is closer to #22 Stanford than it is to #1 UGA.

#closing the gap...
This post was edited on 2/5/20 at 1:52 pm
Posted by Cadello
Eunice
Member since Dec 2007
47795 posts
Posted on 2/5/20 at 1:51 pm to
I really hate Florida but your class is nothing to melt over.
Posted by Go Go Gata
Member since Oct 2016
2177 posts
Posted on 2/5/20 at 1:51 pm to
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It’s not that Mullen can’t recruit. It’s that he won’t recruit. He is too arrogant to beg a kid to play for him. He thinks it should be the other way around.


He's never going to be a great recruiter himself imo.
But he needs to get rid of Knox and English at least.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32872 posts
Posted on 2/5/20 at 1:54 pm to
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You know what he always loved? That Georgia was always signing the great classes and he was still kicking their asses.



Florida typically had better classes than uga, so that one actually made no sense.
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
41321 posts
Posted on 2/5/20 at 1:54 pm to
If only you could have performed as well in ATL as you have on the recruiting trail. Congrat's on your recruiting trophy.
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
41321 posts
Posted on 2/5/20 at 1:55 pm to
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Florida typically had better classes than uga, so that one actually made no sense.


Yeah all about Spurrier until it doesn't fit your narrative.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32872 posts
Posted on 2/5/20 at 1:59 pm to
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Yeah all about Spurrier until it doesn't fit your narrative


Spurrier was a better recruiter than some gators, including himself, remember.
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
41321 posts
Posted on 2/5/20 at 2:05 pm to
I love all the revisionist history. You bought yourself a nice little class, be happy with it. No excuse in October as we are definitely not closing the gap.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
22353 posts
Posted on 2/5/20 at 2:07 pm to
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No excuse in October


Y’all the October excuse makers..”muh refs...muh injured corners..”
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32872 posts
Posted on 2/5/20 at 2:11 pm to
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love all the revisionist history.


YOUR revisionist history that uga was a recruiting juggernaut and Spurrier struggled is exactly what I am trying to correct.
Posted by Hobnailboot
Minneapolis
Member since Sep 2012
6094 posts
Posted on 2/5/20 at 2:24 pm to
You will soon be a 7-5 team. The peak has occurred. And yes your recruiting sucks but it's more on your weirdo coach than anyone else.
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 2/5/20 at 2:24 pm to
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YOUR revisionist history that uga was a recruiting juggernaut and Spurrier struggled is exactly what I am trying to correct.


It was a lot easier in the 90s to pretty much claim whatever you wanted about recruiting classes... so long as it fit your narrative... Spurrier liked whatever narrative gave him the best chance to land a barbed jab at a rival...

I don't have the time or patience to do it, but would be interesting to cross reference this Google Doc that has all the old recruiting rankings pre-internet era by year, and try to approximate what the kids rankings would have been...

LINK

Example rubric would be looking at last 5 years and taking average rating of positions by their relative rank (ie. on average #1 QB in the country is a .9785, #2 is a .9698, etc...) and then piece together some rankings... probably could be done with some excel magic, and maybe I'll have some time to cobble something together in the future, but suffice it to say, while that jab from Spurrier was funny, it wasn't really based on any empirical data.
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
41321 posts
Posted on 2/5/20 at 3:04 pm to
Jesus, Mary and Joseph. Fib, you are gonna give me a headache.

I will admit that yours and djs' reasoning sounds plausible, but I don't think Spurrier made that up out of thin air. Had to be some articles written or something similar in order for him to go there. He had a much more prickly personality back in the day. And I think he was a little sensitive about his recruiting or lack thereof.

As much as everyone likes to call Mullen a lazy recruiter, Spurrier wrote the book on lazy recruiting.

This post was edited on 2/5/20 at 3:05 pm
Posted by Hobnailboot
Minneapolis
Member since Sep 2012
6094 posts
Posted on 2/5/20 at 3:07 pm to
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As much as everyone likes to call Mullen a lazy recruiter


He's not lazy. He's just weird. Offputting to normal people. Probably scares the hell out of some kids and their folks with his gooberness.
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
41321 posts
Posted on 2/5/20 at 3:09 pm to
Zip it Hobby, you damn shite stirrer!
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 2/5/20 at 3:16 pm to
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Jesus, Mary and Joseph. Fib, you are gonna give me a headache.


I do what I can.

quote:

but I don't think Spurrier made that up out of thin air. Had to be some articles written or something similar in order for him to go there. He had a much more prickly personality back in the day. And I think he was a little sensitive about his recruiting or lack thereof.


I don't recall when the quote was from. Frankly, I thought it was from his time at South Carolina (along with the one about playing us early in the season and suspensions)... If it was from his time at UF, one would imagine if it had any validity to it at all, it would have been during the Donnan tenure, as he actually did manage to land a fair amount of talent (that ultimately set Richt up for earlier success).
Posted by Hobnailboot
Minneapolis
Member since Sep 2012
6094 posts
Posted on 2/5/20 at 3:35 pm to
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Zip it Hobby, you damn shite stirrer!


You know it's true Big D. You probably cant even look at the guy without cringing!
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
22953 posts
Posted on 2/5/20 at 3:45 pm to
Yea he needs a few good recruiters on the staff. This class is still strong overall when you include three five star transfers which is pretty nuts. Before transfers don't count...Greenard was a transfer as were Grimes and Jefferson...they have panned out well for us.

We def need to replace Knox and English though.
Posted by Chad 23
Member since Dec 2016
1545 posts
Posted on 2/5/20 at 3:48 pm to
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You will soon be a 7-5 team.


Based on what? Mullen just took Mcelwain’s shitty recruiting classes and won 21 games in 2 years.
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