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re: More possible bad news for Alabama coming

Posted on 1/20/24 at 10:58 am to
Posted by Ptins944
Member since Jan 2019
1435 posts
Posted on 1/20/24 at 10:58 am to
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No Saban. Weak NIL collective.

Back to reality....a hard and huge fall for Bama fans. Hope to God that DeBoer is a great coach. He will need to prove it.
The Saban discount on NIL ended with Saban's departure. Alabama faced a big cash crunch by simply having to pay market value like everybody else.

I read something about Alabama's "NIL machine", which was "managed" by Satan, oops Saban, outside of the purview of the Athletic Director.

Following Saban's resignation and DeBoer's hire, the termination of so many Alabama's non-football staffers was done so by the Athletic Director in order to restructure that NIL function under the Athletic Director and not the Head Coach.

If Alabama was going to take a hit anyway, better to rip off the band aid and do it all at once.

Is this what Saban had planned to do from his new office?
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11834 posts
Posted on 1/20/24 at 11:04 am to
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I read something


Would enjoy the read. Please post the link and share.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11834 posts
Posted on 1/20/24 at 11:06 am to
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Bama as a program had no clue this would happen.


Any UA fan that followed UA before Saban knew this would happen.

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Handled poorly within the administration and not just a road bump impact. Oops....


Clarify here because are we talking about the hiring or firing of Jimbo Fisher.
Posted by Ptins944
Member since Jan 2019
1435 posts
Posted on 1/20/24 at 11:25 am to
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quote:
I read something

Would enjoy the read. Please post the link and share.



Sorry.

My post was a summary of various articles and postings on message boards, etc., some from "informed" sources who have proved to have some insight into various NIL programs across the country.

While most of the Alabama organization had interviews of sorts, apparently part of the staff was simply dismissed. In all the discussions, the need for cost cutting at the admin level has never been mentioned.

Doesn't take too big of a leap to believe their loyalties were to Saban.

Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11834 posts
Posted on 1/20/24 at 4:13 pm to
So you have no link other than some rumor board gossip regarding Saban was in charge of the collective. Thanks for clarifying.
Posted by FootsFanatic
Member since Aug 2021
1051 posts
Posted on 1/20/24 at 6:54 pm to
Fact is, Alabama as a football program is less than average without Saban.

Saban IS Alabama.

Great run Saban (aka Bama) but that is over. Bama is now immensely disadvantaged and they have no "bag money" solution.

Very, very poor planning. And not something they can recover from. The damage is done. DeBoer will need to seriously prove himself as a top coach. Welcome to the SEC....
Posted by FootsFanatic
Member since Aug 2021
1051 posts
Posted on 1/20/24 at 7:06 pm to
Is the 30 day window over yet?

Cries all the Bama fan base...
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58905 posts
Posted on 1/20/24 at 7:51 pm to
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Is the 30 day window over yet?

Cries all the Bama fan base...




February 2 or 3rd? Something like that.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11834 posts
Posted on 1/20/24 at 8:26 pm to
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Fact is


a&m is a mid-tier program and always has been.

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immensely disadvantaged and they have no "bag money" solution.


Yes a&m is due to big brother in Austin now even more that they have joined the conference. And according to the latest budget released a&m has no money but running a net loss for 2023.
Posted by Contra
Member since Oct 2016
7521 posts
Posted on 1/20/24 at 9:41 pm to
No matter how much Aggie pays players, they will always be a mediocre program. Dumbest/most foolish program in the SEC. Aggie will always be known as the program that paid a $75 million buyout.
Posted by AUWDE
Member since Oct 2013
3187 posts
Posted on 1/20/24 at 11:10 pm to
Saban retired on the 10th, so they still have 20 more days to go.
Posted by ulmtiger
Member since Jan 2008
1868 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 8:31 am to
Texas A M pays it’s retired coaches more than Saban lol
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58905 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 10:55 am to
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Saban retired on the 10th, so they still have 20 more days to go.




Ah! Great point! I was thinking about when Alabama was put out of the playoffs, but you are correct. The timeline would have moved once Saban retired. Good catch!
Posted by ChiGator
Member since Nov 2020
3274 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 11:27 am to
This is going to be a classic case of the grass isn’t always greener on the other side. Deboer had a kush life brewing in WA with a satisfied fanbase. Could just keep chomping away with that program and built a strong power. Now he’s already hitting insane unrealistic expectations at Bama.
Posted by JKChesterton
Member since Dec 2012
4012 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 10:40 am to
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Think Keeley is staying

Oatis sounds like Ole Miss


Whatever some Alabama fans think about Pete Golding regarding his tenure as DC, and I happen to think he is a good DC, one thing everyone agrees with regardless if you are an LSU fan (me here), Bama fan, Ole Miss fan or any other fan of an SEC team, is that Golding was a DC that also busted his az**** on the recruiting trail.

Thus, if Oatis winds up at Ole Miss, that suggest to me in part the role Golding played in recruiting the current roster at Bama, in particular on the defensive side. So Bama's roster on the defense could be in play for Ole Miss with Golding as DC.
This post was edited on 1/22/24 at 10:41 am
Posted by JKChesterton
Member since Dec 2012
4012 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 10:45 am to
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Fact is, Alabama as a football program is less than average without Saban.

Saban IS Alabama.

Great run Saban (aka Bama) but that is over. Bama is now immensely disadvantaged and they have no "bag money" solution.

Very, very poor planning. And not something they can recover from. The damage is done. DeBoer will need to seriously prove himself as a top coach. Welcome to the SEC....


I am trying to figure out the fighting Yell Leaders of Texas A&M. When you all want to go after LSU, you pecker ride Bama, now you are trolling Bama.

I am no Bama fan at all, without Saban they are still in the historic SEC, among the Big6, and had the most SEC titles even without Saban. In the now with 16 teams, Bama is in the BIG8 with Texas and OU. Between Bryant and Saban, Curry won a co-SEC I think in 1989, shared with TENN/Auburn, Stallings won the SEC and AP/Coaches NC in 1993, even Dubose won an SEC title and Shula won 10 games at Bama.

They will still be a formidable opponent, but nothing like Saban's run as those are once in a generation or 2 generation type runs. But formidable nevertheless.
This post was edited on 1/22/24 at 7:39 pm
Posted by MacMan10
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2020
2122 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 12:21 pm to
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Saban retired on the 10th


The day the rest of the SEC received hope.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58905 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 12:25 pm to
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The day the rest of the SEC received hope.





Nah. We were feeling pretty good anyway. Still struggled with Saban, but it was obvious he had slipped a bit, and we were growing stronger, so we were fine either way.
Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
4306 posts
Posted on 1/23/24 at 5:18 am to
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Remember at Coach Kalen DeBoer’s press conference, that he wanted to pick Nick Saban’s brain and get “one thing per day” fro him?

I wouldn’t have said that if I were him.
Posted by Pickle_Weasel
Member since Mar 2016
3806 posts
Posted on 1/23/24 at 6:33 am to
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Whatever some Alabama fans think about Pete Golding regarding his tenure as DC, and I happen to think he is a good DC, one thing everyone agrees with regardless if you are an LSU fan (me here), Bama fan, Ole Miss fan or any other fan of an SEC team, is that Golding was a DC that also busted his az**** on the recruiting trail.


Pete's recruiting has been nothing short of spectacular for Ole Miss.
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