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re: Florida Recruiting - why so anemic to date?
Posted on 6/12/18 at 10:22 pm to Shoney
Posted on 6/12/18 at 10:22 pm to Shoney
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Pruitt, Kirby and Champ are all better recruiters than him,
It's June, man. Let's see the players on the field before we start crowning recruiters, Christ. Off-Season Champions of life.
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Posted on 6/12/18 at 11:13 pm to Vidic
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So with the talent in Florida, all three programs being unproven, and the money you’re paying Mullen, your expectations are bowl games?
To start with, Yes! You cant be dumb enough to suggest that WINNING big bowl games doesnt boost the whole program. WTF.
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Wow. And if you knew anything about college football a head to head game doesn’t determine which school is going to have a better class.
This may be true but thats just what I feel like will happen its just an opinion R E L A X
This post was edited on 6/12/18 at 11:17 pm
Posted on 6/13/18 at 4:14 am to PNWGator
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pretty sure we can ALL agree that Mullen>McElwain. So even if he isnt an Elite recruiter our program is in better hands now than it was. Under Mullen we should consistantly make and WIN a bowl game, something PLENTY of Gator fans would be happy with considering the way things have been. As far as Taggart vs Mullen I think whoever wins the head to head game is probably gonna finish with the better class.
Florida's standard is not a damn bowl win. It's winning the sec and NC. Being better than the worst HC in modern UF history isn't a hard bar to cross. It's being at the top.
Posted on 6/13/18 at 12:00 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Low IQ
Posted on 6/13/18 at 12:02 pm to TJGator1215
If your barometer is to have an SEC win Mullen's first year when we haven't had one in ten years I think you're just stupid. We have to take this year by year, and I think we all knew this wasn't going to be an easy chore.
If you think Mullen can fix a ten year problem in 11 months, you're just not rooted in reality.
If you think Mullen can fix a ten year problem in 11 months, you're just not rooted in reality.
Posted on 6/13/18 at 12:54 pm to UTprideofTX
Not shocked by this at all. Get use to 3* OL w/ terrible offers for sure. Heav sucks arse.
This post was edited on 6/13/18 at 1:00 pm
Posted on 6/14/18 at 1:17 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Where did I say he had to win in the 1st year dumbass? You don't pay a guy $6M for making bowl games. News flash. UF doesn't have a ten year problem at most it's a 2 year problem. Two great recruiting classes can fix the talent problems. Great coaching will take care of the rest. Just look at ucf. If mullens a great offensive mind it should still show in our results. Our schedule is easy. Spare me the facilities BS. Both meyer and SOS had no problem winning with subpar facilities. I'm glad they're being addressed but imo we're not spending enough to catch up.
This post was edited on 6/14/18 at 5:26 pm
Posted on 6/14/18 at 1:58 pm to PNWGator
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a top 10 class at the END of the cycle I will admit Mullen doesnt have IT
This won't happen. Let me tell you a story about the recruitment of AJ Brown.
Brown will be a top 10 pick at WR next year, he is from Starkville but went to Ole Miss. He grew up a State fan and from what I have been told wanted to go to MSU. He ended up Ole Miss because they actually tried to recruit him.
Mullen assumed he would just come to MSU like other Starkville kids and did not put a lot of effort into Brown. In swoops Ole Miss who actually tried to recruit and that is how they ended up with him.
Same thing happened that cycle with Scott Lashley a 4* OL from nearby West Point. Heavsey did not really try and just assumed he would come to MSU.
State fans praised Mullen for his game management and offensive playcalling. It was great and did a great job developing players and QBs. However State fans have never praised him for recruiting, ever.
He is a lazy recruiter and despite being in Starkville, Moorhead is having no problems attracting out-of-state high level talent.
Posted on 6/14/18 at 2:16 pm to Rayburn8
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He is a lazy recruiter
I dont think he has been lazy at all. He may not be a great recruiter (remains to be seen) but he has been putting in work.
Posted on 6/14/18 at 5:56 pm to PNWGator
I always said Mullen would do great things at a place like Florida that could recruit itself, BUT I feel like the resurgence of Miami and having an outstanding recruiter in Taggart at FSU is not good for him. He will always be behind those two in recruiting and with Georgia recruiting the way they are right now is a perfect storm against him. Will be really interested to see if Florida gives him 3-4 years without winning the east but having a pretty good record overall.
Posted on 6/14/18 at 6:01 pm to Civildawg
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. Will be really interested to see if Florida gives him 3-4 years without winning the east but having a pretty good record overall
We gave Muschamp year 4 after going 4-8 and losing to a Ga Southern team that didn’t complete a single pass. McElwain hung himself with the death threat stuff or he would’ve gotten at least one more year. I think it’s pretty apparent we will give Mullen at least 4. Especially since his buddy Stricklin is still his boss. They seem pretty fond of each other. We will see what he does with it.
Posted on 6/14/18 at 6:42 pm to Rayburn8
Let me tell you about a school that ranked near or dead last in facilities (when he arrived), education and prestige.
A school that is dead last in win % (in spite of Mullen's 8 win a year average). Source. Academic Source (You're 13th here, but 14th for ESPN
If it wasn't for Mullen's recruiting and capacity as a Head Coach, Moorehead wouldn't have dick -- then you compound that with Ole Miss not being able to recruit like it had been because they're under sanction.
Instead of talking incessant non-stop shite about Mullen, why don't you look at how he built you guys from the ground up and how Ole Miss has taken themselves out of the race for most good players?
Moorehead's lucky as frick that he's going to take an upperclass laden team with new facilities and his #1 in state rival is on sanctions.
So of course he looks lazy, what is he selling at MSU? Their educational prowess? Their rich tradition of never winning jack shite? Their subpar facilities (until Stricklin and Mullen fixed that problem)? Get the frick out of here with this nonsense.
A school that is dead last in win % (in spite of Mullen's 8 win a year average). Source. Academic Source (You're 13th here, but 14th for ESPN
If it wasn't for Mullen's recruiting and capacity as a Head Coach, Moorehead wouldn't have dick -- then you compound that with Ole Miss not being able to recruit like it had been because they're under sanction.
Instead of talking incessant non-stop shite about Mullen, why don't you look at how he built you guys from the ground up and how Ole Miss has taken themselves out of the race for most good players?
Moorehead's lucky as frick that he's going to take an upperclass laden team with new facilities and his #1 in state rival is on sanctions.
So of course he looks lazy, what is he selling at MSU? Their educational prowess? Their rich tradition of never winning jack shite? Their subpar facilities (until Stricklin and Mullen fixed that problem)? Get the frick out of here with this nonsense.
This post was edited on 6/14/18 at 6:45 pm
Posted on 6/14/18 at 9:53 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Mullen's accomplishments were incredible when all things considered.
He walked a way from a heck of team this year.
He walked a way from a heck of team this year.
This post was edited on 6/14/18 at 11:47 pm
Posted on 6/15/18 at 12:53 am to Pdubntrub
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They should be concerned. His two biggest rivals are FSU and UGA if he isn't recruiting on par with those two he won't be there long. Both of those schools have relentless recruiters, any finish outside the top ten isn't going to cut it.
I've contended for some time, since the day after Mullen was hired, that if mUSChamp consistently out-recruits him and subsequently beats him more often than not ... it would be Boom at SC who would cause the demise of Mullen at Florida far faster than either UGA or FSU would at this point.
Am I wrong ... does my premise need explaination?
Posted on 6/15/18 at 12:56 am to scrooster
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I’ve contended for some time, since the day after Mullen was hired, that if mUSChamp consistently out-recruits him and subsequently beats him more often than not ... it would be Boom at SC who would cause the demise of Mullen at Florida far faster than either UGA or FSU would at this point. Am I wrong ... does my premise need explaination
That would certainly get him fired. If Boom is beating him so is Kirby, that’s no bueno.
Posted on 6/15/18 at 2:48 am to scrooster
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Am I wrong
Yes. Muschamp couldn't outrecruit him coming off a 4 win season.
Muschamp won't outrecruit him this year, either. It's weird how fans of teams with fanbases of lesser teams always chest thump in June without realizing that usually they've blown their wad.
Let's revisit this conversation in a few months when kids are signing LOIs.
Posted on 6/15/18 at 11:44 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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It's weird how fans of teams with fanbases of lesser teams always chest thump in June without realizing that usually they've blown their wad.
Says the guy that thinks Mullens is outrecruiting Willie.
Posted on 6/15/18 at 11:49 am to Pdubntrub
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Says the guy that thinks Mullens is outrecruiting Willie.
That's my opinion from watching visits -- especially return visits and having seen Willie lose (badly) several recruiting battles, two with his former staff.
When recruits are electing to play for your previous OC (as in last year previous OC) rather than you, there is something wrong.
Don't look now, but some people think their best player is going to transfer and the battle is between Florida and Alabama.
Of course, you're here to troll and not to actually talk recruiting, but I figured I'd put it out for other people taking interest in Florida recruiting.
Posted on 6/15/18 at 12:12 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Don't look now, but some people think their best player is going to transfer and the battle is between Florida and Alabama
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When recruits are electing to play for your previous OC (as in last year previous OC) rather than you, there is something wrong.
2 recruits from California.
This post was edited on 6/15/18 at 12:14 pm
Posted on 6/15/18 at 12:18 pm to jlnoles79
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2 recruits from California.
Two recruits from California who your coach visited a day before they tore down your flag, man. He's also ridiculously pursued other recruits that he had no chance with. He'll learn, or maybe hire a better recruiter that can handle this stuff for him so he doesn't invite recruits on campus when he's not going to be there.
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