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re: Florida Recruiting - why so anemic to date?
Posted on 6/12/18 at 4:37 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Posted on 6/12/18 at 4:37 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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All I know is that FSU has already taken two players who are major risks and we haven't taken a single one. He took Xavier Peters last year and for that it will cost him that solitary "win" that he had against Florida. Again, it's 1 - 0 Mullen
Did UF want that kid?
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Posted on 6/12/18 at 5:09 pm to BreezyDawg
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Did UF want that kid?
Kid’s a baller we would have taken him in a heart beat, but he never had a chance to get into UF, so I don’t think we even tried.
Posted on 6/12/18 at 5:26 pm to GatorBait24
Gothca! Well its to early to tell if Mullen will be able to recruit at UF or not. UF sells itself, so as long as he can put a good product on the field he will be alright
Posted on 6/12/18 at 6:27 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Serious question straws, how old are you?
Posted on 6/12/18 at 6:43 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
What?
FSU's class #9 ACC #3 Avg * .92(#4 in the country)
You're delusional as shyt
FSU's class #9 ACC #3 Avg * .92(#4 in the country)
You're delusional as shyt
Posted on 6/12/18 at 6:45 pm to GatorBait24
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FSU is like 20 spots ahead of us in recruiting, how the hell is that a bad cycle? Taggart may be goofy to you, but compared to Mullen he’s really not. Mullen is the goofy weird one along with his buddy Hevesy. I don’t understand how you can look passed all the signs that Taggart is whipping Mullen’s arse and just act like it isn’t happening. Even with the recycled tweets and no lunch at there camp they are kicking our staffs arse! Does that not worry you at all?
X100000
Posted on 6/12/18 at 6:49 pm to GatorBait24
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think your glasses are tinted really orange and blue, regardless of whether we catch them or not saying FSU isn’t recruiting well is asinine. Mullen has a huge hill to climb and right now he hanging on for dear life hoping for a good season with a 7-5 roster to bail him out on the trail. When he should be selling these kids on what he already accomplished at MSU. Mullen is not infallible and he’s getting pushed around right now. It could absolutely change but not acknowledging it and acting like it isn’t happening isn’t going to help anything. It didn’t help Mac and it wont help Mullen. We need top 5 classes and we need them now, excuses be damned.
Ignore him. He crowed how great Mullen and Co were gonna be because of their sec experience. Said taggart staff was a joke who couldn't recruit yet taggart finished ahead him in less time. He's a joke
Posted on 6/12/18 at 6:49 pm to GatorBait24
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If Taggart has problems what the hell does Mullen have? Mullen has been on the job longer than he has, and Taggart is recruiting circles around him. How do you not see this?
Posted on 6/12/18 at 6:59 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Current players their getting CBS for:
4* Brendan Gant
4* Nick Cross
4* Kalen Daloach
4* John Dunmore
4* Lloyd Summerall
4* Raymond Woodie III
4* Derrick McClendon
4* Trikweze Bridges
LINK
Players we lead for:
5* Trey Sanders (trending Bama)
4* Mycah Pittman
4* Kair Elam
4* Chester Kimboriugh
4* J. Billingsly
Fsu has a ton more buzz than us right now despite having a staff that has less experience recruiting in major conference than our staff.
4* Brendan Gant
4* Nick Cross
4* Kalen Daloach
4* John Dunmore
4* Lloyd Summerall
4* Raymond Woodie III
4* Derrick McClendon
4* Trikweze Bridges
LINK
Players we lead for:
5* Trey Sanders (trending Bama)
4* Mycah Pittman
4* Kair Elam
4* Chester Kimboriugh
4* J. Billingsly
Fsu has a ton more buzz than us right now despite having a staff that has less experience recruiting in major conference than our staff.
Posted on 6/12/18 at 7:00 pm to GatorBait24
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just looking at the ranking my dude, who you’re leading for doesn’t count, how many commitments do we have? They have better players committed and more of them, I’m not sure how else I’m supposed to judge it right now. Recruiting in June doesn’t mean everything but it’s also all we have to judge things on. All these kids are coming on Florida’s campus but not many are commiting. I follow Florida recruiting closely, and nobody left on our board is a sure thing. I don’t understand why you are weighting things that haven’t happened yet heavier than the things that already have. It feels like you are looking for anything to make the case we aren’t doing as bad as the optics look. Maybe if you take a step back remove your orange and blue glasses, you may realize it’s not all rainbows and butterflies in Gainesville. It may get better but it hasn’t yet so let’s not act like it’s inevitable please.
Just look at all the OL that visit then go to other schools
Posted on 6/12/18 at 7:04 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
FSU, MSU, TAMU and even UT had bad years just like us and none of them are having issues recruiting.
Posted on 6/12/18 at 7:07 pm to GatorBait24
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ude I hope you are right, I want to outrecruit FSU as much as anyone, I just think you are getting a little ahead of yourself with some bias information that is coming from someone that is telling you what you want to hear. FSU is going to pick up more blue chips we probably will too. It might not be enough to pass them because they are so far ahead at this moment. They aren’t recruiting poorly right now we are according to the ranking. Any silents or anything is just speculation at this point and we will see. If I were you though I wouldn’t be talking to much shite to your FSU buddies because you might be the one with egg on your face at the end of the day. Mullen out performing Taggart is in no way shape or form guaranteed. Taggart may have a losing record overall but there is no question he left three different programs in a better situation than when he got the job. That has to count for something.
You have talked to straws long have you? You will prove him wrong multiple times and he will spin and excuse it away. Lulz at him saying he knows football.
This post was edited on 6/12/18 at 7:10 pm
Posted on 6/12/18 at 7:42 pm to TJGator1215
Whats your solution?? Fire Mullen year 1. We would be on the hook with a HUGE buyout, plus we still have to pay off McElwain. Mullen had a good transition class, should be even better this year. If we dont have a top 10 class at the END of the cycle I will admit Mullen doesnt have IT. Untill then I'm hoping he succeeds and proves you wrong.
Posted on 6/12/18 at 7:44 pm to PNWGator
We're going to have to wait 3-4 years to fire him. I hope he proves me wrong too. It's extremely concerning that he's recruiting just like he did at MSU despite having some of the best resources available to him in the country.
This post was edited on 6/12/18 at 7:47 pm
Posted on 6/12/18 at 7:49 pm to TJGator1215
Not long at all, but he certainly doesn’t like dissenting opinions..
Posted on 6/12/18 at 7:50 pm to PNWGator
I'm seriously starting to question my sanity -- TJ just posted 8 times in a row and you think this is the guy that you're going to get an honest debate out of?
It comes down to a really, really simple question: Do you think the recruiting class in June is indicative of what it will be in December?
I say no, and I think the vast majority of people would agree with me in saying that this conversation is absolutely worthless until September/October. It's my whole point. Maybe if we were in Chip Kelly's boat where we literally have zero commitments, but we're not. We're okay right now, and there's no need for us to wet our pants over it.
ETA: If you're a Gator fan, please stop by Jason Higdon's chat for real in depth Gator news. He answers questions, so if you have doubts about where we are right now he's the man to ask. He's directly involved with the recruiting process and, honestly, a better source than TJ.
It comes down to a really, really simple question: Do you think the recruiting class in June is indicative of what it will be in December?
I say no, and I think the vast majority of people would agree with me in saying that this conversation is absolutely worthless until September/October. It's my whole point. Maybe if we were in Chip Kelly's boat where we literally have zero commitments, but we're not. We're okay right now, and there's no need for us to wet our pants over it.
ETA: If you're a Gator fan, please stop by Jason Higdon's chat for real in depth Gator news. He answers questions, so if you have doubts about where we are right now he's the man to ask. He's directly involved with the recruiting process and, honestly, a better source than TJ.
This post was edited on 6/12/18 at 8:08 pm
Posted on 6/12/18 at 8:09 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Im pretty sure we can ALL agree that Mullen>McElwain. So even if he isnt an Elite recruiter our program is in better hands now than it was. Under Mullen we should consistantly make and WIN a bowl game, something PLENTY of Gator fans would be happy with considering the way things have been. As far as Taggart vs Mullen I think whoever wins the head to head game is probably gonna finish with the better class.
Posted on 6/12/18 at 8:14 pm to PNWGator
So with the talent in Florida, all three programs being unproven, and the money you’re paying Mullen, your expectations are bowl games? Just because things have been shitty the past few years? Wow. And if you knew anything about college football a head to head game doesn’t determine which school is going to have a better class. Florida state will have better classes than Florida as long as both coaches are there. Because, you know, Florida state has better recruiters.
This post was edited on 6/12/18 at 8:16 pm
Posted on 6/12/18 at 8:16 pm to PNWGator
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As far as Taggart vs Mullen I think whoever wins the head to head game is probably gonna finish with the better class.
It's been that way for the last six/seven years, definitely. Maybe longer. I think Mullen will win people over on the field -- or at least that's the hope. Florida's reputation needs fixin'.
Posted on 6/12/18 at 10:12 pm to TidalSurge1
Mullen has the personality of a velociraptor, nothing warm and fuzzy about him. I also think he's one of those coaches who can't stand having to kiss some 17 year old kids arse. That being said, Fla is a great talent state, and it seems like they always finish strong no matter who the coach is. Pruitt, Kirby and Champ are all better recruiters than him, so that would concern me a little if I were a Gator fan. Pruitt still has to do it as a head coach, but so far he looks like he's going to be hell to go up against in recruiting.
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