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re: Your top 5 SEC players since 7 in a row started (2006)
Posted on 5/17/13 at 7:29 am to Monticello
Posted on 5/17/13 at 7:29 am to Monticello
Cam
Tebow
DMac
Eric Berry
Percy Harvin
Tebow
DMac
Eric Berry
Percy Harvin
Posted on 5/17/13 at 7:35 am to hogminer
quote:
Cam
Tebow
DMac
Eric Berry
Percy Harvin
Good call on Berry. I thought about Harvin.
Posted on 5/17/13 at 7:44 am to hogminer
OFFENSE
Tebow
Cam
Ingram
Harvin
McFadden
DEFENSE
Berry
McClain
Dorsey
Willis
Clowney
Tebow
Cam
Ingram
Harvin
McFadden
DEFENSE
Berry
McClain
Dorsey
Willis
Clowney
This post was edited on 5/17/13 at 8:55 am
Posted on 5/17/13 at 7:46 am to DWag215
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So you're knocking the freshman because he wasn't perfect. That's really the long and short of it.
I don't think they are knocking as much as they are defending the fact that he should not even be sniffing the top 5 list right now. If he has another great year then yeah we can start talking about putting him up there with the greats like Cam, Tebow, McFadden, etc., but I think it is a bit too soon for that.
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:inb4camonlyplayedayear:
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Posted on 5/17/13 at 8:11 am to Gradual_Stroke
quote:Frick Manziel. It's laughable to think that he's top 10 in the last 7 years much less top 5
Let's count the butthurt posters who leave off
Posted on 5/17/13 at 8:11 am to wadewilson
1.) Manziel
2.) Newton
3.) Tebow
4.) Clowney
5.) Peterson
I try not to like Manziel but he (alone) made TAMU a very competitive football team and put up better numbers than Newton. Both are monsters and 1 step above the other 3.
2.) Newton
3.) Tebow
4.) Clowney
5.) Peterson
I try not to like Manziel but he (alone) made TAMU a very competitive football team and put up better numbers than Newton. Both are monsters and 1 step above the other 3.
Posted on 5/17/13 at 9:09 am to crimson008
Everybody needs to calm down about Manziel. He had a great year. And he'll tank this year. Watch and see.
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Posted on 5/17/13 at 9:31 am to Teague
Not Top 5, but certainly an argument can be made to be considered an honorable mention is Javier Arenas.
Sr. Year:
12 TFL, 5 sacks, 5 picks, 10 passes defended, and a PR for a TD. Finished with 7 career punt returns for TDs.
Sr. Year:
12 TFL, 5 sacks, 5 picks, 10 passes defended, and a PR for a TD. Finished with 7 career punt returns for TDs.
Posted on 5/17/13 at 9:36 am to skrayper

This post was edited on 5/17/13 at 9:37 am
Posted on 5/17/13 at 9:50 am to DWag215
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So you're knocking the freshman because he wasn't perfect. That's really the long and short of it.
When you're talking about a list like this, you almost have to be perfect.
Its not a knock, but if you want to say he's better than Newton, he would need to be perfect.
If you want to say he's better than Tebow or DMac, he needs to do it for a couple more years.
Posted on 5/17/13 at 9:52 am to bgator85
1. Tim Tebow
4-year player, 3-year starter
2 National Championships (one as starter, one as role player)
2 SEC Championships, 3 SECCG appearances
35-6 as a starter, 48-7 during his 4-years
Heisman Trophy winner (at the time, first underclassman ever)
3-time Heisman finalist
2-time Maxwell Award winner (2007, 2008)
2-time 1st Team All American (2007, 2008)
3-time 1st Team All SEC (2007, 2008, 2009)
1st in SEC passing efficiency (170.8), 2nd in NCAA history
145 TDs (88 passing, 57 rushing)
12,233 Total Yds (9,286 passing, 2,947 rushing)
Didn't bother to look up specifics, but undoubtedly impressive record vs. ranked teams
1st round NFL Draft pick (25th overall)
Unless we define what "top players" means (pure talent, potential, best individual season, hardware, overall individual performance, championships, leadership, etc.) this debate is meaningless. Tebow is the best combination of all of that and he played for 4 years. Arguably in the top 5 SEC (and NCAA) players of all time, not just since the NC streak began. No one else on the list comes close.
"Yeah, but he has an awkward throwing motion..."
But since this debate is basically "throw logic and stats out the window and pick 5 SEC players you'd want on your team" (since 2006) I'd go with: 1. Tebow 2. Cam 3. McFadden 4. Harvin 5. Clowney
4-year player, 3-year starter
2 National Championships (one as starter, one as role player)
2 SEC Championships, 3 SECCG appearances
35-6 as a starter, 48-7 during his 4-years
Heisman Trophy winner (at the time, first underclassman ever)
3-time Heisman finalist
2-time Maxwell Award winner (2007, 2008)
2-time 1st Team All American (2007, 2008)
3-time 1st Team All SEC (2007, 2008, 2009)
1st in SEC passing efficiency (170.8), 2nd in NCAA history
145 TDs (88 passing, 57 rushing)
12,233 Total Yds (9,286 passing, 2,947 rushing)
Didn't bother to look up specifics, but undoubtedly impressive record vs. ranked teams
1st round NFL Draft pick (25th overall)
Unless we define what "top players" means (pure talent, potential, best individual season, hardware, overall individual performance, championships, leadership, etc.) this debate is meaningless. Tebow is the best combination of all of that and he played for 4 years. Arguably in the top 5 SEC (and NCAA) players of all time, not just since the NC streak began. No one else on the list comes close.
"Yeah, but he has an awkward throwing motion..."
But since this debate is basically "throw logic and stats out the window and pick 5 SEC players you'd want on your team" (since 2006) I'd go with: 1. Tebow 2. Cam 3. McFadden 4. Harvin 5. Clowney
Posted on 5/17/13 at 9:57 am to DWag215
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DWag215
Did Manziel win a championship? No. That's why it's absurd for you to be so upset that others put CHAMPIONSHIP QB's in front of him.
He wins one this year and puts up similar numbers again, put him at the top of the list.
Posted on 5/17/13 at 10:19 am to Teague
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Everybody needs to calm down about Manziel. He had a great year. And he'll tank this year. Watch and see.
Your fear is palpable.
Posted on 5/17/13 at 11:11 am to FrankWhite'56
Watch and see, Grasshopper.
Posted on 5/17/13 at 11:23 am to Monticello
If anyone puts Ingram on their list, then Richardson should be at least one spot higher.
1. Tim Tebow
2. Cam Newton
3. Darren McFadden
4. Rolando McClain
5. Could be any number of people. Too hard for me to pick.
I also would like to throw a shoutout to the SEC's best punt/kick returned, Javier Arenas.
1. Tim Tebow
2. Cam Newton
3. Darren McFadden
4. Rolando McClain
5. Could be any number of people. Too hard for me to pick.
I also would like to throw a shoutout to the SEC's best punt/kick returned, Javier Arenas.
Posted on 5/17/13 at 1:55 pm to WhiskerBiscuitSlayer
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I'm curious, did Manziel ever direct A&M to a come from behind victory?
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Ole Piss & La Tech?

Posted on 5/17/13 at 11:52 pm to General13
My LSU top
Dorsey
Peterson
Doucet
Matthieu
Mongo
Claiborne
Lafell
Flynn
Hester
Brockers
That's my LSU top 10

Dorsey
Peterson
Doucet
Matthieu
Mongo
Claiborne
Lafell
Flynn
Hester
Brockers
That's my LSU top 10


Posted on 5/18/13 at 12:12 am to Monticello
JFF has only played one year and I wouldn't put him on any top 5 year list except first year SEC starter list
Posted on 5/18/13 at 12:37 am to wadewilson
He's right bro. AJ was all over his arse in the BCSNC. Did you honestly see any of the ESPN hype covering his actual corner skills?
No. He was all about stripping the ball and coming on corner blitzes. And when he finally played a power running team he got squashed, tossed, and burned on play action. He shouldn't even be in top 10 as far as I'm concerned. The fact alone he constantly was on weed among other things would in my opinion leave him out of it.
No. He was all about stripping the ball and coming on corner blitzes. And when he finally played a power running team he got squashed, tossed, and burned on play action. He shouldn't even be in top 10 as far as I'm concerned. The fact alone he constantly was on weed among other things would in my opinion leave him out of it.
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