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Posted on 9/7/22 at 12:33 pm to Hogfan13
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Yeah, there are schools that are good for some things and not others. MSU seems to be good when it comes to engineering. Maybe they suck at everything else, who knows? Ole Miss is apparently good for Law and Medicine. I don't know if they even do engineering. LSU has a good dental school and engineering school.
I would imagine the schools higher up the list are simply more well rounded and above average in more areas. Like Arkansas.
Water is wet, and Mississippi is poor.
Almost half of State's students are receiving some form of Federal financial aid, and about 1/3 are receiving Pell Grants.
Many of them do well, finish and better their lives, but most lack the preparation and support structure to finish a four-year degree. These negative outcomes really hurt State in these rankings.
Posted on 9/7/22 at 12:34 pm to diddlydawg7
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They’ve pumped a ton of money into it over the last couple years and they’ve shot it from like #175 to #100 over the last several years. I’ve talked to some in the program who thinks we will be in the #50-60 range within 5 years
They had just created the engineering school as I left. Prior to that, mechanical engineering was the only offering.
Edit to add: I just looked at the webpage and see that the School of Engineering has been upgraded to the College of Engineering.
This post was edited on 9/7/22 at 12:36 pm
Posted on 9/7/22 at 12:34 pm to diddlydawg7
An often overlooked factor in states with a Hope scholarship is the inevitable grade inflation that starts to occur in high school. Can't give little Timmy a C because I don't want to be the teacher that ruins his chances to go to college. So we'll let him do an extra assignment and make sure he gets a B+.
I was accepted to both Georgia Tech and Georgia out of high school, and my numbers weren't anything like what is required now. But, grade inflation and SAT re-scoring hadn't started yet because HOPE was brand new. "Back in my day" if you got a C at the end of the semester, you got a C.
Once high school grade inflation kicks in, that's when you'll see a state's entrance requirements skyrocket.
Also, political, but.... being a middle or upper middle class white male, and to a lesser extent female, will put you at a further disadvantage. Unless you are very rural. You get some extra points for being rural, even if you are white and middle to upper income. Your grades and test scores must be even higher to get in. Not only do you have to find ways to overcome grade inflation where a 4.0 doesn't mean shite, you have to go above and beyond that with extremely high test scores and tons of civic extracurriculars.
I was accepted to both Georgia Tech and Georgia out of high school, and my numbers weren't anything like what is required now. But, grade inflation and SAT re-scoring hadn't started yet because HOPE was brand new. "Back in my day" if you got a C at the end of the semester, you got a C.
Once high school grade inflation kicks in, that's when you'll see a state's entrance requirements skyrocket.
Also, political, but.... being a middle or upper middle class white male, and to a lesser extent female, will put you at a further disadvantage. Unless you are very rural. You get some extra points for being rural, even if you are white and middle to upper income. Your grades and test scores must be even higher to get in. Not only do you have to find ways to overcome grade inflation where a 4.0 doesn't mean shite, you have to go above and beyond that with extremely high test scores and tons of civic extracurriculars.
This post was edited on 9/7/22 at 12:36 pm
Posted on 9/7/22 at 12:37 pm to AU47
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Odd engineering melt.
Not really a melt as much as pointing out to you guys that no matter what you say you are not the MIT of the south like you guys think you are.
Posted on 9/7/22 at 12:39 pm to cdur86
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you are not the MIT of the south
Auburn does a lot of engineer flexing.
Georgia Tech is the MIT of the South.
Auburn is more like a vocational school compared to MIT or Georgia Tech.
Posted on 9/7/22 at 12:40 pm to AGGIES
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Dude - all SEC schools have value. I bet MSU baseball games are fun as hell also.
Best student body baseball environment is at OLE MISS in right field, not even close.
Posted on 9/7/22 at 12:41 pm to fareplay
LSU is hands down the worst, most embarrassing school in the SEC. Zero academic credibility. If LSU were in Texas, they'd be ranked lower than UH. No way am I paying for a kid to go there. Ole Miss is also a school for people that just want to party their way to a diploma, even if said diploma doesn't get you much.
Posted on 9/7/22 at 12:43 pm to deeprig9
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An often overlooked factor in states with a Hope scholarship is the inevitable grade inflation that starts to occur in high school. Can't give little Timmy a C because I don't want to be the teacher that ruins his chances to go to college. So we'll let him do an extra assignment and make sure he gets a B+.
I was accepted to both Georgia Tech and Georgia out of high school, and my numbers weren't anything like what is required now. But, grade inflation and SAT re-scoring hadn't started yet because HOPE was brand new. "Back in my day" if you got a C at the end of the semester, you got a C.
Once high school grade inflation kicks in, that's when you'll see a state's entrance requirements skyrocket.
Also, political, but.... being a middle or upper middle class white male, and to a lesser extent female, will put you at a further disadvantage. Unless you are very rural. You get some extra points for being rural, even if you are white and middle to upper income. Your grades and test scores must be even higher to get in. Not only do you have to find ways to overturn grade inflation where a 4.0 doesn't mean shite, you have to go above and beyond that with extremely high test scores and tons of civic extracurriculars.
I don't know what the current numbers are, but in the early 2000s, only 900 black high school graduates in GA qualified to get into UGA. Obviously, UGA wasn't going to get all 900 because those students all qualified for and were recruited by other top schools.
The breakdown really isn't along racial lines. It is along socioeconomic lines.
UGA also tracks the graduates of every high school. It knows exactly how a 3.5 GPA student from one school performs as compared to a 3.5 GPA from any other school at UGA, and they weigh that in the admissions process.
All of the above was discussed in one of my grad school classes in which two UGA admins were also students (one was a sitting VP, and the other was an assistant to a VP and later held a high position).
Posted on 9/7/22 at 12:43 pm to madmaxvol
Ole Miss has produced 27 Rhode Scholars. Tied with Vandy for most in the SEC.
MSU only has 2!
MSU only has 2!
Posted on 9/7/22 at 12:51 pm to deeprig9
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Also, political, but.... being a middle or upper middle class white male, and to a lesser extent female, will put you at a further disadvantage
I think it's more about location that that necessarily. It's a lot easier to get in from someplace like Valdosta than it is Cobb or Gwinnett.
Posted on 9/7/22 at 12:52 pm to Insurancerebel
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Ole Miss has produced 27 Rhode Scholars. Tied with Vandy for most in the SEC.
That is actually very impressive. I had no clue.
Posted on 9/7/22 at 12:52 pm to fareplay
1. Texas a/m
2. Bama
2. Bama
Posted on 9/7/22 at 12:52 pm to fareplay
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What one college would you want them never to apply?
For me: MSU, I don’t know if they have a airport
They can go where they want. shite, I'll be happy with Delgado Community College.
Posted on 9/7/22 at 1:00 pm to OBReb6
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And I’d be heartbroken if I had a son who wanted to go to A&M. I know we’re supposed to be cool with that kind of thing in the current year, but I think you’re lying if you don’t admit it would bring a little disappointment
Your Son would have a beautiful intelligent Girlfriend and 2 years after graduating would make over 6 figures. What is wrong with you?
This post was edited on 9/7/22 at 1:02 pm
Posted on 9/7/22 at 1:04 pm to fareplay
LSU due to it being in Baton Rouge (extremely unsafe city) and due to the current administration (extremely woke). I would prefer my child pick any other university in the SEC than LSU.
Posted on 9/7/22 at 1:09 pm to fareplay
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child is applying for colleges
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in SEC
The SEC has nothing to do w education. I’d say go to the best and cheapest option.
Posted on 9/7/22 at 1:11 pm to fareplay
Wherever he/she feels the most comfortable and happy
I’m not letting my sports preferences interfere with my childrens happiness
I’m not letting my sports preferences interfere with my childrens happiness
Posted on 9/7/22 at 1:16 pm to fareplay
Texas A&M
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