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re: Would you rather your school be ranked #1 in football or academics?

Posted on 12/9/15 at 1:28 pm to
Posted by Master of Sinanju
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Posted on 12/9/15 at 1:28 pm to
A better question may be would you trade being #1 in football for being dead last/in danger of being shut down academically.

There's not a lot of difference in the vast majority of schools academically.

Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 12/9/15 at 1:30 pm to
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They're both big arse flagship state schools. Neither is really renowned or that hard to get in to. The difference you're talking about is negligible. OSU is much closer to OM than it is the Ivy League


OSU is far better than OM and much harder to get into, that is for certain
Posted by BuckeyeFan87
Columbus
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Posted on 12/9/15 at 1:32 pm to
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Academics but OSU fans like yourself would probably say football because your Athletics are more important to you than academics. Which isn't shocking considering you're from Ohio



You mean where, generally speaking, education is held to a much higher standard?
This post was edited on 12/9/15 at 1:33 pm
Posted by randomways
North Carolina
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Posted on 12/9/15 at 1:32 pm to
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OSU is far better than OM and much harder to get into, that is for certain


It's harder to get into than OM, sure, but it still accepts more than half its applicants, and has one of the largest student bodies in the country.
Posted by Tennessee Jed
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Posted on 12/9/15 at 1:33 pm to
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The truth of the matter is that very few people here would have gone to school at their SEC Alma Mater if they didn't have a football team to root for.


Alabama is probably the only place that is true.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 12/9/15 at 1:39 pm to
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It's harder to get into than OM


Guessing you meant OSU

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but it still accepts more than half its applicants
this means nothing

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has one of the largest student bodies in the country.


neither does this
This post was edited on 12/9/15 at 1:40 pm
Posted by MSU5
Memphis
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 12/9/15 at 1:43 pm to
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Would you rather your school be ranked #1 in football or academics?


Too easy.. Football. People that have to go to elite academic schools to make a nice living are doing it all wrong.
Posted by randomways
North Carolina
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Posted on 12/9/15 at 1:45 pm to
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quote:
It's harder to get into than OM



Guessing you meant OSU

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but it still accepts more than half its applicants

this means nothing

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has one of the largest student bodies in the country.



neither does this


Let's work on reading comprehension first, and we can proceed from there. I meant "OM". As in "It's harder to get into OSU than OM" in reply to the comment I quoted. If you're going to laugh, make sure you're not saying something stupid.

Acceptance rate is rather important part of the discussion of how easy, or hard, it is to get into a university. Size of the student body is a relevant factor in the same question, since it reflects, to some degree, the exclusivity of the school.

Learn to read and think about what you've read, kiddo. You'll go further in life with those skills.
Posted by cornhat
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Posted on 12/9/15 at 1:45 pm to
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The truth of the matter is that very few people here would have gone to school at their SEC Alma Mater if they didn't have a football team to root for.

What?! Speak for yourself.
Posted by HogFanfromHTown
Dallas, TX
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 12/9/15 at 1:48 pm to
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Academics but OSU fans like yourself would probably say football because your Athletics are more important to you than academics. Which isn't shocking considering you're from Ohio

High school education in Mississippi is fricking pathetic. OSU is way way way harder to get into and is much more reputable in most subjects. I'm sure you got them beat in poultry science tho lmfao.
Posted by Mullet Flap
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Posted on 12/9/15 at 1:49 pm to
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Academics. You're not going to be successful in life because your team goes to a certain bowl or game


Try telling that to the state of Alabama
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 12/9/15 at 1:50 pm to
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Acceptance rate is rather important part of the discussion of how easy, or hard, it is to get into a university


not at all. acceptance rate is a meaningless statistic, when it comes to ease of acceptance. They dont accept based upon a certain percentage of applicants

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Size of the student body is a relevant factor in the same question, since it reflects, to some degree, the exclusivity of the school.


What? size of the school has nothing to do with the quality of the school or ease of entrance

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Learn to read and think about what you've read, kiddo. You'll go further in life with those skills.


Should probably learn to actually think first.




Posted by nc14
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Posted on 12/9/15 at 1:52 pm to
You're the one from the lowest rated school compared to the two in Alabama.
Posted by Mizzou to my Lou
Miami
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Posted on 12/9/15 at 1:53 pm to
Academics
Posted by Mullet Flap
Lysdexia
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Posted on 12/9/15 at 1:55 pm to
Huh?
Posted by randomways
North Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
12988 posts
Posted on 12/9/15 at 2:03 pm to
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not at all. acceptance rate is a meaningless statistic, when it comes to ease of acceptance. They dont accept based upon a certain percentage of applicants


That's just ridiculous. Yes, schools have means of manipulating their acceptance rate, and other factors (such as the number of applicants in toto) play a part. But there is a fairly demonstrable correlation between acceptance rates and the difficulty of getting into a school. With a few outliers, there's also a demonstrable correlation between academic reputation and acceptance rates. If there weren't, the top schools wouldn't be so difficult to get into. Vanderbilt accepts something like 13% of applicants because it rejects ones below a certain threshold, not because it decided that "13%" would be a super-awesome percentage to settle on. The Ivies have even lower acceptance rates, and more formidable academic criteria.

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What? size of the school has nothing to do with the quality of the school or ease of entrance


This is just basic common sense. Keeping in mind that I said "a relevant factor", think about it for a second. Unless there is a severe disparity in application numbers, two roughly equivalent schools with a significant disparity in student body populations will necessarily show a disparity in acceptance rate. One of the reasons OSU has 60k students is because they accept more than half their applicants. If they accepted, say, 13% of their applicants, their student body would be roughly 15k.
Posted by cornhat
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 12/9/15 at 2:12 pm to
In addition to acceptance rate, standardized score stats of incoming classes can be used as a proxy of 'quality' of school. Not a fan of it personally though.
Posted by LegendOfCobb
Athens of the West
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Posted on 12/9/15 at 2:16 pm to
Lol. Academics.
Posted by mbogo
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 12/9/15 at 2:18 pm to
People buy tickets and spend money on football as well as spend time discussing football on firums such as thins one so the question has already been answered.
Posted by randomways
North Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 12/9/15 at 2:20 pm to
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In addition to acceptance rate, standardized score stats of incoming classes can be used as a proxy of 'quality' of school. Not a fan of it personally though.


Me neither. I certainly did well by them, but they are legitimately problematic.
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