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re: Would Bama have won as much or more with Manziel at QB instead of McCarron?
Posted on 6/19/15 at 8:07 pm to CrimsonFever
Posted on 6/19/15 at 8:07 pm to CrimsonFever
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I don't think so.
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A one-legged, retarded chimp could have won championships on those embarrassingly talented teams.
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Posted on 6/19/15 at 8:11 pm to CajunTiger_225
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No he isnt.
He is most definitely still is with the Bengals. Terrell Pryor was just cut and according to OTA reports and coachs' comments AJ and Dalton has separated themselves from the other QBs. Dalton will be still be the staring QB with AJ most likely as the back up.
Posted on 6/19/15 at 8:16 pm to CrimsonFever
No, because Saban would've kicked his arse out and AU would've swooped him up.
Question should be- if Johnny football went to Bama would Cheesedick still be at AU??
Question should be- if Johnny football went to Bama would Cheesedick still be at AU??
Posted on 6/19/15 at 8:24 pm to CrimsonFever
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Yes he is. He's the Bengals 2nd string QB.
Well shite. Maybe I was thinking of McElroy.
Posted on 6/19/15 at 8:34 pm to CrimsonFever
Alabama wouldn't have won any titles with Manziel, his style is not reliable, he could easily go out and throw 4 INT's and lose you the game.
Championship teams are as much about consistency as they are talent.
Championship teams are as much about consistency as they are talent.
Posted on 6/19/15 at 8:35 pm to CrimsonFever
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Would Bama have won as much or more with Manziel at QB instead of McCarron?
The correct answer is McCarron.
Saban would not have put up with JM's ego and crap off the field.
Posted on 6/19/15 at 8:52 pm to CrimsonFever
Manziel who?
Posted on 6/19/15 at 9:20 pm to 3down10
I honestly think you believe that. Your football iq is very low. Those Heisman voters don't know crap compared to you. I love when people say all he did was throw jump balls to Evans. Makes me smile and thank The Lord I'm not as simpleminded as some
Posted on 6/19/15 at 9:30 pm to Alert Mi
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Linemen don't block, running backs don't run, receivers don't catch for someone they don't respect or feel don't care about them.
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A lot of football players don't like prima donna's who try to make everything about themselves. Especially not at Alabama where the team aspect, not the individual, is stressed
I remember him taking over a game against Bama and prima donna or not his teammates didn't seem to mind.
Posted on 6/19/15 at 9:33 pm to Shingo
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I honestly think you believe that. Your football iq is very low. Those Heisman voters don't know crap compared to you. I love when people say all he did was throw jump balls to Evans. Makes me smile and thank The Lord I'm not as simpleminded as some
But you are too simpleminded to quote the response you are responding to so others would know what you are talking about.
Like we are going to scroll back up to figure it out.
This post was edited on 6/19/15 at 9:36 pm
Posted on 6/19/15 at 9:37 pm to Alert Mi
You DID go look it up and then edited that response? Ha!
Posted on 6/19/15 at 9:43 pm to Shingo
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You DID go look it up and then edited that response? Ha!
Incorrect. I edited the post to correct a mistake. You, on the other hand, apparently don't know how to properly use a message-board.
Posted on 6/19/15 at 9:43 pm to Shingo
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I honestly think you believe that. Your football iq is very low. Those Heisman voters don't know crap compared to you. I love when people say all he did was throw jump balls to Evans. Makes me smile and thank The Lord I'm not as simpleminded as some
Oh please, the Heisman trophy is 90% hype and it was perfect for Manziel because he was also 90% hype.
I didn't say all he could do was throw jump balls to Evans. What he was good at was being very slippery. You'd think he was sacked, he should have been sacked, but nope there he goes. He was damn good at that, and people liked to watch it.
But at the end of all that, he was often times bailed out by the receivers. He threw balls up for grabs and it worked out for him at times. Evans deserves a lot of credit for that.
Yet as far as being the type of QB that runs a disciplined offense based on timing and other such things? No fricking thanks.
Posted on 6/19/15 at 9:48 pm to CrimsonFever
Bama would have won less. Saban likes things ultra-structured, Manziel was really only effective when he freelanced. Manziel lacks the discipline to run that offense.
Posted on 6/19/15 at 10:26 pm to CrimsonFever
We would not have beat LSU in 2012 with Manziel at QB. Mccarron was a big part of that last drive
Posted on 6/20/15 at 12:22 am to 3down10
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No, Manziel was over-rated and only won the heisman due to them leaving him in long enough to get 5 and 6 TD's against crap teams like Rice "because he needed experience" combined with the hype of the Alabama game.
He wasn't very good when he faced most of the better defenses. And really, he wasn't that great against Alabama outside the 1 quarter.
Manziel sat out 5 complete quarters, and played 1 drive (or less) in 5 other quarters in 2012. He still broke the SEC single season yardage record by nearly 800 yards despite playing in one less game than cam newton. I'm not saying he is or isnt a better Qb than Newton, only that everything you wrote is bullshite.
Posted on 6/20/15 at 12:37 am to CrimsonFever
Great thread
Posted on 6/20/15 at 1:21 am to G2160
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Manziel sat out 5 complete quarters, and played 1 drive (or less) in 5 other quarters in 2012. He still broke the SEC single season yardage record by nearly 800 yards despite playing in one less game than cam newton. I'm not saying he is or isnt a better Qb than Newton, only that everything you wrote is bullshite.
5 complete quarters in a shite schedule full of fluff teams and a SEC West that was down that year.
Florida - 1 TD.
Ole Miss - 2 TDs
LSU - 0 TDs(3 INT)
Miss St - 2 TDs.
Alabama - 2 TDs.
Amongst teams with decent defense, didn't get many TD's.
Arkansas - 4 TDs.
Mizzou - 5 TDs.
Auburn - 5 TDs.
Arkansas that year was 4-8. Auburn was 3-9, and Missouri was 5-7.
SMU - 6 TDs
South Carolina St - 5 TDs.
LA Tech - 6 TDs.
Sam Houston - 5 TDs
2 FCS teams in this mix, and then 2 terrible other OOC games.
So where did he get all his "amazing stats"? He padded them while playing the bad teams.
btw, in 2012 when Alabama played it's FCS team. AJ came out after 1 drive in the 2nd quarter with only a 28 pt lead and only throwing 1 TD pass.
It was all HYPE
But that's what the Heisman is about, so don't see what it matters too much. It was a good year for the aggies, and you got to act like you actually belonged in the SEC for awhile.
Posted on 6/20/15 at 1:31 am to 3down10
those numbers are still better than AJ
Posted on 6/20/15 at 1:37 am to bigman334
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those numbers are still better than AJ
AJ sat out half as many total quarters that Manziel did in a single FCS game. Alabama didn't play 2 FCS teams like A&M. He also sat in other games as well.
Still, he passed for 26 TD's and nearly 3,000 yards awhile only throwing 3 INTs all year. Good enough for 2nd in passer efficiency.
And that is the kind of thing you need in a QB and offense that wins Championships.
So yeah, he had better stats, but AJ performed much better. If not for the 2 INT's vs A&M, he wouldn't have thrown any during the regular season.
30 TDs and 3 INTs all year. I'll take it all day long.
This post was edited on 6/20/15 at 1:38 am
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