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re: Worst case for SEC: All the major AAU universities end up in Big Ten

Posted on 7/4/22 at 4:29 pm to
Posted by MillerLiteTime
Atlanta
Member since Aug 2018
2498 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 4:29 pm to
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Never read so much idiotic drivel in my life.

Expansion is about one thing and one thing only:MONEY


And the AAU and Big Ten Academic Alliance (BTAA) = massive money (much more than what college sports brings in. The BTAA alone is a 10 billion per year enterprise of shared funding, and that is prior to many more AAU schools joining from the Pac 12 and ACC and bringing in all that AAU research funding.
Posted by bigtrain333
Member since Oct 2017
306 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 4:29 pm to
Nebraska was AAU when they joined but no longer are.
Posted by TideFaninFl
On the space coast
Member since Oct 2017
6633 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 4:35 pm to
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And the AAU and Big Ten Academic Alliance (BTAA) = massive money (much more than what college sports brings in. The BTAA alone is a 10 billion per year enterprise of shared funding, and that is prior to many more AAU schools joining from the Pac 12 and ACC and bringing in all that AAU research funding.



You are confusing athletics with academics.
Posted by RollingwiththeTide
Member since Oct 2020
3681 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 4:36 pm to
I did not say that a AAU rating was pointless. If a school can get that rating then great. All I meant was that very few if any players will be attracted to a school because of this rating. If a school like Florida left the SEC for the Big 10 it wouldn’t be because they had an AAU rating and most other SEC schools do not. If Florida made a move like that it would probably cut way deeper than just an AAU rating.
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
15598 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 4:37 pm to
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Nebraska was AAU when they joined but no longer are.

A combo of the Big 12 AAU members and certain Big 10 members voting them out.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27297 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 4:37 pm to
quote:

And the AAU and Big Ten Academic Alliance (BTAA) = massive money (much more than what college sports brings in. The BTAA alone is a 10 billion per year enterprise of shared funding, and that is prior to many more AAU schools joining from the Pac 12 and ACC and bringing in all that AAU research funding.


And this has what to do with athletics?
Posted by TideFaninFl
On the space coast
Member since Oct 2017
6633 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 4:38 pm to
quote:

And the AAU and Big Ten Academic Alliance (BTAA) = massive money (much more than what college sports brings in. The BTAA alone is a 10 billion per year enterprise of shared funding, and that is prior to many more AAU schools joining from the Pac 12 and ACC and bringing in all that AAU research funding.


And this has what to do with athletics?



When a top recruit mentions the AAU rating then you might have a point, until then, nope.

Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27297 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 4:47 pm to
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When a top recruit mentions the AAU rating then you might have a point, until then, nope.


???

Nope what?

There's zero correlation between the reasons for the BIG 10 athletic expansion and it's reasons and AAU research funding.
Posted by TomRollTideRitter
Member since Aug 2016
12618 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 4:47 pm to
The BTAA is just pooled funding. If it was such a big deal to be in it, U of Chicago wouldn’t have dropped it after the B1G’s last round of expansion.

BTAA is a neat collaborative, but it doesn’t fundraise itself. If Florida joined the B1G, they don’t just get a check from BTAA. They put an amount into the pool, and then have access to the pooled funds. UF would probably put in more than they’d get out it.

I don’t see BTAA as beneficial to schools that already have the AAU designation. It’s not like being in the BTAA helps you maintain the AAU designation. Ask Nebraska.
This post was edited on 7/4/22 at 4:49 pm
Posted by El Segundo Guy
SE OK
Member since Aug 2014
9581 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 4:54 pm to
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There's zero correlation between the reasons for the BIG 10 athletic expansion and it's reasons and AAU research funding.


No way. USC wasn't going to think about the SEC. UVA and UNC won't either.

That academic funding PLUS a large TV contract>>>>just a large TV contract.

I guarantee you there are some current and a soon to be SEC team drooling over the B1G right now. And no, I'm not talking about Missouri.
Posted by MillerLiteTime
Atlanta
Member since Aug 2018
2498 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 4:56 pm to
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You are confusing athletics with academics.



Well.....if you want BTAA funding, your athletic programs have to be in the Big Ten. And although to a casual fan athletics has nothing to do with academics, to a university president, they are very much the same thing.
Posted by Zgeo
Baja Oklahoma
Member since Jul 2021
1115 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 4:59 pm to
IDC

Big 10 is a joke
Posted by LSURulzSEC
Lake Charles via Oakdale
Member since Aug 2004
77308 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 4:59 pm to
Notre Dame is not AAU...
Posted by MillerLiteTime
Atlanta
Member since Aug 2018
2498 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 5:01 pm to
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Notre Dame is not AAU...



Yes, I mentioned that in the OP.
Posted by TideFaninFl
On the space coast
Member since Oct 2017
6633 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 5:02 pm to
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Well.....if you want BTAA funding, your athletic programs have to be in the Big Ten. And although to a casual fan athletics has nothing to do with academics, to a university president, they are very much the same thing.


True, but if you want academics then join the Ivy League.

I understand the amount of money the BTAA receives and its ability to help academics. But the expansion of the Big Ten is not about the BTAA it is athletics.

Now if the Big Ten wants to give up on athletics, they are doing it the right way (spread your conference out, make sure it is a pain for your team's fans to travel, move into large markets that could not care less about college sports)
Posted by TomRollTideRitter
Member since Aug 2016
12618 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 5:03 pm to
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Well.....if you want BTAA funding, your athletic programs have to be in the Big Ten.


What BTAA funding are you talking about? You all are acting like the BTAA funds the schools. The schools fund the BTAA.

There are some nice BTAA collaborative benefits, but that’s it. If it is such an academic boon to play sports in the B1G, explain why Nebraska got dropped from AAU after joining the B1G.

Explain why Chicago dropped out of the BTAA.
Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
15391 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 5:10 pm to
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That AAU rating may have been a big deal 20 or 30 years ago but I doubt it really matters much today. These days most players just want to get to the NFL as fast as possible. Academics is not as high of a priority as it once was.


Exactly. That AAU stuff is just lagniappe. Your brand as a college football program is what is driving all this
Posted by MillerLiteTime
Atlanta
Member since Aug 2018
2498 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 5:11 pm to
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True, but if you want academics then join the Ivy League.



It's not exactly an all or nothing proposition. We are in a war with the B10 in an inevitable race to 2 superconferences. Academics and the association with like-minded AAU members is the best argument the B10 will have if and when they eventually start encroaching to the South.

My God, some of you act like the SEC has no weakness in this fight. Everyone has a weakness. AAU is ours.
Posted by ManBearSharkReb
Member since Dec 2018
3736 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 5:14 pm to
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AAU members


The frick does this have to do with football? I watched UGA dick slap prestigious AAU member Michigan.

You’re fricking retarded
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
15598 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 5:24 pm to
Only 12 AAU members are top 25 valuable CFB programs and 3 are SEC (UF, UT, A&M).
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