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re: Worst case for SEC: All the major AAU universities end up in Big Ten

Posted on 7/4/22 at 5:30 pm to
Posted by MillerLiteTime
Atlanta
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 7/4/22 at 5:30 pm to
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The frick does this have to do with football? I watched UGA dick slap prestigious AAU member Michigan.

You’re fricking retarded


I never said it had to be logical, but deny that this AAU shite matters to university presidents at your own demise. It's not all that matters, but it does matter to them.

Watch Texas leave if they start to get the feeling they are getting left out of the club if all the AAU schools from the Pac and ACC join the Big Ten.
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 7/4/22 at 5:31 pm to
Why would Texas leave when 4 other SEC schools are also AAU?
Posted by TomRollTideRitter
Member since Aug 2016
12618 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 5:33 pm to
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That academic funding PLUS a large TV contract>>>>just a large TV contract.


The academic funding doesn’t come from being a B1G member though. B1G members already have that funding.

Pull the BTAA’s 990, it only has about $10M in assets, and almost all of that came from the universities funding it.

Sure if Florida was threatened with losing AAU status unless they joined the B1G, this would be a concern. But that’s not how it works. Contrary to that, a recent B1G addition lost AAU status after joining the B1G.
Posted by TomRollTideRitter
Member since Aug 2016
12618 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 5:35 pm to
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I never said it had to be logical, but deny that this AAU shite matters to university presidents at your own demise. It's not all that matters, but it does matter to them.


AAU status has nothing to do with what conference you play sports in. No one is at risk of losing AAU status by not playing games in the B1G.
Posted by MillerLiteTime
Atlanta
Member since Aug 2018
2498 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 5:38 pm to
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Why would Texas leave when 4 other SEC schools are also AAU?



In a worst case scenario, it might not be just Texas. Might be UT, A&M, Mizzou, and UF in one big takeover by the Big Ten after they raid the ACC and Pac 12 and virtually every large AAU university that plays major sports joins the same league.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
11363 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 5:40 pm to
Dude the AAU is a racket like the BBB. Its a pryamid scheme that pays their 8 employees all of $1.5 million budget based on dues.
Posted by BuckI
Grove City, Ohio
Member since Oct 2020
3100 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 5:46 pm to
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So basically you are saying the Big Ten is giving up sports\ to focus on academics. Don't they do that already?

Conference expansion is for athletics not for academics or both the SEC and the Big Ten would be going after Harvard, Yale, Penn, et al.


The money in research dwarfs the money from athletics. The B1G would make it worth it for any AAU school that joined.
Posted by MillerLiteTime
Atlanta
Member since Aug 2018
2498 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 5:49 pm to
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Dude the AAU is a racket like the BBB. Its a pryamid scheme that pays their 8 employees all of $1.5 million budget based on dues.



Oh I'm with you. The AAU has historically discriminated against Southern schools, and overvalued Big Ten members. UGA is a far superior school than dozens that are in the AAU.

My point is not that the AAU is some esteemed organization we should all aspire to. It is that universities are run by illogical people who value illogical things like being in "the club."
This post was edited on 7/4/22 at 5:50 pm
Posted by SOBMarcus
San Marcos
Member since Apr 2020
1402 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 5:52 pm to
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we need to prepare for and head off if possible. AAU is the only route I see for the SEC to end up as the loser in the 2 superconference future.


What do “we” need to do to prepare for this apocalypse?
Posted by TomRollTideRitter
Member since Aug 2016
12618 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 5:54 pm to
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The B1G would make it worth it for any AAU school that joined.


definitely worked out for Nebraska.

Athletics conferences either don’t share or share very little research money amongst members. If they did, the conference commissioner would be an academic.
Posted by BuckI
Grove City, Ohio
Member since Oct 2020
3100 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 6:01 pm to
But conferences do share money. Schools love to partner with schools who share a common culture. That is why Missouri wanted to move to the B1G instead of the SEC. And why no one wants to partner with schools like WVU.
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
15598 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 6:08 pm to
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definitely worked out for Nebraska.

And it was fellow Big 10 members like Wisconsin, Iowa, and Minnesota who got them kicked out of the AAU.
This post was edited on 7/4/22 at 6:08 pm
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
15598 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 6:10 pm to
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In a worst case scenario, it might not be just Texas. Might be UT, A&M, Mizzou, and UF in one big takeover by the Big Ten after they raid the ACC and Pac 12 and virtually every large AAU university that plays major sports joins the same league.

Dude our boosters would throw an absolute shite fit if there was talk of leaving the SEC for the Big 10. I doubt they give a shite about the AAU.
Posted by cjohn
Georgia
Member since Aug 2014
865 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 6:17 pm to
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In a worst case scenario, it might not be just Texas. Might be UT, A&M, Mizzou, and UF in one big takeover by the Big Ten after they raid the ACC and Pac 12 and virtually every large AAU university that plays major sports joins the same league.


Not sure A&M would be interested. If we were in the B1G now, we would be 3rd in research $$ in the B1G. We dont have that much to gain by going.

But then again.. school administrators are not exactly known to be the sharpest tools in the shed. No telling what kind of decisions they are capable of.
Posted by Pulpwood Patterson
Member since Dec 2017
1799 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 6:26 pm to
The AAU isn’t that important, and frankly at any point they are perilously close to antitrust suits from states universities procluded from the federal subsidies..

AAU is fantastically antiquated. There is also a tremendous escalation in private research foundations that are far more effective and efficient than the university research model.

It’s the type of smoke screen you have to use when you consistently get your arse handed to you on the gridiron. The academic piece will be even more irrelevant when Athletic departments have to be held in separate entities because football at the college level is semi pro.
This post was edited on 7/4/22 at 6:43 pm
Posted by 1801
Charleston
Member since Aug 2012
6299 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 6:27 pm to
does it really matter? the Big 10 football schools are still diploma mills.

Posted by multicampus
Member since Oct 2021
1191 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 6:39 pm to
If that happens, UGA and Bama may meet for the national championship!!
Posted by Poichess
Member since Jun 2019
792 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 6:41 pm to
AAU = $$$$$$

Football is window dressing
Posted by MillerLiteTime
Atlanta
Member since Aug 2018
2498 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 6:45 pm to
This world of conference expansion is controlled by university presidents/chancellors and provosts. Just for fun, everyone google the alma maters of the president and provost of their school. I guarantee you 90% of them will be affilated with AAU and/or current or possibly future Big Ten schools. You won't find anyone more obsessed with status, pedigrees, or an illogical need for belonging than university administrators. And as undeserving as it is, the AAU and Big Ten hold enormous sway over this group of academic elites.

Here is mine:

Alabama:
President: Stuart Bell: Texas A&M (AAU member)
Provost: James Dalton: Cincinnati and Ohio St (AAU/Big Ten)
This post was edited on 7/4/22 at 6:47 pm
Posted by cjohn
Georgia
Member since Aug 2014
865 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 12:38 am to

Texas A&M President: Katherine Banks - Univerity of Florida (AAU)
Texas A&M Provost (Interim): Timothy P Scott - Texas A&M (AAU)

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