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re: Worse coach: Kiffin or DeBoer

Posted on 11/25/24 at 1:46 pm to
Posted by Quicksilver
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Posted on 11/25/24 at 1:46 pm to
Kiffin won more games in his worst full season at Ole Miss than State has the last 2 years combined.
This post was edited on 11/25/24 at 1:47 pm
Posted by NitsFan71
Ohio
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Posted on 11/25/24 at 1:47 pm to
Kiffin by a mile...

DeBoer built a great offense at Indiana and was in the Championship game last year at Washington. Saban left because he didn't like NIL but he also knew the cupboard was half-bare.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
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Posted on 11/25/24 at 1:47 pm to
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Ok. What has Kiffin won that State hasn't in the last 15 years or so?
Are you high? Y’all made the Orange Bowl one time with your best player and best team ever and got bitch slapped by Georgia Tech in that game after we bitch slapped y’all in Oxford with a one legged QB.

That is the ceiling for State’s program. Y’all don’t have the money, facilities, fan support or leadership to be more than 10-3 with an Orange Bowl loss once every 70 years. Y’all’s biggest accomplishment is being able to say y’all went to the SEC championship almost 30 years ago with an 8-5 team and that was only because Bama was on probation.
Posted by Froman
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Posted on 11/25/24 at 1:48 pm to
I think we need to cut DeBoer some slack in year 1. Let’s see how the next couple of seasons play out before we say he sucks. He’s been a winner everywhere he’s gone till this point.
Posted by teamjackson
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Posted on 11/25/24 at 1:48 pm to
Posted by Lolathon234
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Posted on 11/25/24 at 1:51 pm to
Deboer actually made the title game last year, what has Kiffin ever done as HC aside from choke, cry, and quit on his team
This post was edited on 11/25/24 at 1:52 pm
Posted by IlliniBuck
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 11/25/24 at 2:16 pm to
It has been hard for Lane Kiffin and many other coaches in the SEC to win something while Nick Saban was around. There was not much left for other coaches to win.

Kiffin did beat the other boogyman of the SEC, Kirby Smart, this year.


This post was edited on 11/25/24 at 2:18 pm
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 11/25/24 at 2:18 pm to
I wouldn't trade DeBoer for Kiffin.

Does that answer the question?

Edit: I would trade Kelly for Kiffin though.
This post was edited on 11/25/24 at 2:19 pm
Posted by SeeeeK
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Posted on 11/25/24 at 2:20 pm to
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he rode penix in the pac


Sounds hot and a little kinky
Posted by Blackadder
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Posted on 11/25/24 at 2:25 pm to
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EarlyCuyler3

Why are you posting pictures of your sister? What exactly does that have to do with the thread subject?
This post was edited on 11/25/24 at 2:26 pm
Posted by Blackadder
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Posted on 11/25/24 at 2:26 pm to
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EarlyCuyler3

Okay, both your sisters are ugly. That still doesn't explain how posting pictures of them correlates to the thread subject.
Posted by That LSU Guy
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Posted on 11/25/24 at 2:27 pm to
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He has 10x the built in advantages that Kiffin does and does less with more. He came from a silver spoon program that starts every season on 3rd base and still couldn’t get it done at ND.. Came to LSU and has only gotten worse. Congrats on beating Lane 2 times I guess. Is that your new measure of success?
None of this is true.

Oh, and...

Posted by msudawg1200
Central Mississippi
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Posted on 11/25/24 at 3:23 pm to
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Y’all’s biggest accomplishment is being able to say y’all went to the SEC championship almost 30 years ago with an 8-5 team and that was only because Bama was on probation.

Bama wasn't on probation. That's a lie that's been circulated through Ole Miss fans to make them feel better because they've never went. I mean, if Bama was on probation in 98, which they weren't because they went to the Music City Bowl that year, why didn't Ole Miss take advantage and win then?
Posted by msudawg1200
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Posted on 11/25/24 at 3:24 pm to
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Posted by msudawg1200
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Posted on 11/25/24 at 3:28 pm to
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Kiffin won more games in his worst full season at Ole Miss than State has the last 2 years combined.

Another lie. He won 5 games in 2020 which was a full season. State's won 7 the last two years. Anyway, what does this have to do with my original post that Kiffin has never won anything of note which he hasn't. This is about State's stickiness. This is about Kiffin's shitting the bed.
Posted by sorantable
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 11/25/24 at 3:31 pm to
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Are you high? Y’all made the Orange Bowl one time with your best player and best team ever and got bitch slapped by Georgia Tech in that game after we bitch slapped y’all in Oxford with a one legged QB.

That is the ceiling for State’s program. Y’all don’t have the money, facilities, fan support or leadership to be more than 10-3 with an Orange Bowl loss once every 70 years. Y’all’s biggest accomplishment is being able to say y’all went to the SEC championship almost 30 years ago with an 8-5 team and that was only because Bama was on probation.



HJJ Flay cookin’ today.
Posted by Basura Blanco
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 11/25/24 at 3:40 pm to
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Kiffin and DeBoer are better coaches than Kelly.


Kelly has done a shite job at LSU this year, no doubt. He didn't fill needs well, he didnt address special teams for the third year running, he made a lazy promotion at OC, and his in season adjustments have been poor. Just a horrible job on his part.

With all of that going on, he beat Kiffin's team with a 1st year starting QB and one of our least talented, no depth defenses in decades. Kiffin is better than Kelly in just about every aspect of the job with one huge exception. Game Management. Until Ole Miss stops losing games as a direct result of Kiffin's in-game decisions, shite arse Kelly is a better coach than Kiffin. I realize there is more to coaching than game management, but Kiffins is so bad, it cancels out every other aspect as it puts actual losses directly on his shoulders

If those two switch sidelines in Baton Rouge, Ole Miss wins. Not because Kelly is some mastermind but because Kiffin can not avoid stepping on his own dick. No one in their right mind would say that Ole Miss is out of the playoffs without Kffin losing 1-2 games this season with his 4th down decision making.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
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Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 11/25/24 at 3:48 pm to
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He has 10x the built in advantages that Kiffin does and does less with more.

He came from a silver spoon program that starts every season on 3rd base and still couldn’t get it done at ND..

Came to LSU and has only gotten worse. Congrats on beating Lane 2 times I guess. Is that your new measure of success?


LSU has more talent than Ole Miss overall but Ole Miss has a better team (better starters).

Kiffin has also been at Ole Miss two years longer.

What exactly makes Kiffin the better option? At best, they're equal.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
36728 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 3:52 pm to
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LSU has more talent than Ole Miss overall but Ole Miss has a better team (better starters).

Kiffin has also been at Ole Miss two years longer.

What exactly makes Kiffin the better option? At best, they're equal.


Kiffin has the ability to grow up and stop using analytics.

We saw that when Ole Miss beat Georgia and he took 5 FG's instead of going for it on 4th down every time.
Posted by JEC119
Alabama
Member since Apr 2024
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Posted on 11/25/24 at 3:53 pm to
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teamjackson


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