re: Won't be popular but let's open the discussion

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You guys are seriously getting out over your skis constantly trying to find ways to prove to yourself that things in Tuscaloosa are over and somehow the Saban era is dead.

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I think you are missing the point. I honestly don't believe that anybody thinks Alabama is dead. It wouldn't surprise me to see that Alabama is not quite as strong as they had been the past 10 years or so. Saban is easily the GOAT, and I expect Alabama to have success for a long time to come....even after Saban leaves.

But I also don't think it is "getting out over our skis" to say that Alabama is feeling toe loss of Kirby.

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Do we need to drag out the gifs of all our true freshmen (the ones from that GOAT 2017 recruiting class) beating you in the national title game again or can we end this by agreeing both teams are stacked and it should be a fun next few years?

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GIFS are nice and fun and troll worthy, but the effect of Kirby was first felt this year by Georgia, and won't show up for a couple more years in Alabama if the OP is correct.

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Alabama's 2017 class is arguably the greatest class of all-time at this point given their freshman year on-field play.

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not even close to accurate.

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Yes, it is. It is dead on accurate. Backed up by the 247 Composite, avg player ranking and what they showed on the field this past season.

If you true believe recruits went to Bama because of Smart, I got some beachfront desert property to sell ya. A little success and some Georgia fans get all uppity & delusional and you act like you've been here before. Hmmmm....

If bait, good chum...lol

Georgia is like Bama, we'll sorta like Bama, but they're surely like other solid programs, who are just in need of a leader who can dip into their talent-rich states, to reach their programs full potential. "The Bear" knew what Florida could be way before Spurrier showed up, Bama's "Bear" called the Gators 90's dominance way before it was popular to do so. "The Bear" mentioned, that if Florida ever got a coach to corral those rich Fla recruiting grounds, they'd rock it to the top. "The Bear" was so correct and this works for all programs near rich recruiting grounds, that have top recruits a stones throw from their campus. Saban proved this at LSU also, Saban shut that rich state down and LSU became what it could be.

The beginning success of a decent coach is always important, and you've got to have on-field-results early on, to cause more top recruits to follow suit afterwards. Smart and Georgia did the most important part after getting solid coaching, and after the Dogs got a few good classes to boot, they had on field success to sell. Enjoy the ride Georgia fans, I'd be shocked if you don't win a national title soon, but we'll see. Georgia has a funk on them (Bad mojo) that they've got to knock off 1st. The loss in title game could go two ways for Dogs. The title game loss to Bama feeds Georgia's hunger to reach greatness, like the 2008 Gator loss did for Bama's 2009 or Georgia's past failures (That Georgia is famous for on huge stage) doubt sets in and Dogs don't truly believe they can do it. That belief matters, and anyone saying belief doesn't matter, hasn't watched sports closely enough. We'll find out soon enough which direction this goes, but my money is on Bama & Georgia to give us Bama -vs- Gators 2008-2009 type of games, with a national title or maybe more in Georgia's future. I hope Georgia finally gets over the hump, they;'re my 2nd favorite SEC program. It'd be nice for Dog fans to experience the awesome ride and then feel the ultimate memory, a national title! Many young Georgia fans have never felt or witnessed this, they're way overdue. Like I said, I hope it happens.

Georgia should've already had a Bama (Many times over) and Florida (90's & 2006-2009) title run within their history, maybe smart is the one who will finally get the Dogs there. Time will tell, it always does...

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Georgia should've already had a Bama (Many times over) and Florida (90's & 2006-2009) title run within their history, maybe smart is the one who will finally get the Dogs there. Time will tell, it always does...

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There's the key. It's not easy to get there, but once there it is much harder to stay at the top. What Saban has done is unbelievable. Problem so many people have is when you are in the middle of a great run, you don't fully appreciate it. A lot of Alabama fans, imo, are not fully appreciating what is happening. I am old enough to be in awe of what Saban has done.

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If Kirby wants to take the young cool relatable coach technique that’s fine, but Saban will continue to be a recruits daddy.

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Maybe. I don't think I would lean either way just yet. There is no denying that the two together were unbeatable on the recruiting trail, though.

A shred of success and suddenly UGA fans are thinking they are a dynasty. Never change UGA fans.

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There's the key. It's not easy to get there, but once there it is much harder to stay at the top. What Saban has done is unbelievable. Problem so many people have is when you are in the middle of a great run, you don't fully appreciate it. A lot of Alabama fans, imo, are not fully appreciating what is happening. I am old enough to be in awe of what Saban has done.

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This Bama fan completely understand how special of a act that Bama/Saban have done since 2008, it's not the norm at all. What Saban has done hasn't be done before because it's much tougher in modern era to stay at the top. What Saban/Bama have done is ground breaking, period!

The Gator runs weren't as long as the run Bam has been on lately, not even close, and that's because it's tougher to keep getting top recruits when the depth chart is full of top talent everywhere. Much tougher! I think Smart has a chance to do what Saban could've done at LSU if Saban had stayed there. Saban would've kept the top La recruits coming, and had LSU in the title hunt yearly. Smart can do that too, is Smart can keep feeding off Georgia's top state talent, but we won't know for sure, until we witness Georgia recruits signing with Georgia when they're full of top recruits already.

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I wonder if players would just prefer to play for a younger more relatable coach at this point...if championships are a real potential

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Good lord fellow, Saban has just won 5 of 9 national championships. No program has ever accomplished that. That's beyond potential. That's reality.

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This Bama fan completely understand how special of a act that Bama/Saban have done since 2008, it's not the norm at all.

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That's great then! You absolutely should fully appreciate it, because you are right. It is near impossible to replicate today. I just remember the Braves from the 90's. Looking back I really appreciate what they did, but at the time, I focused on the failures and got aggravated.

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Good lord fellow, Saban has just won 5 of 9 national championships. No program has ever accomplished that. That's beyond potential. That's reality.

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You misunderstood him, I think. He was saying that some kids might prefer to play for a younger, dynamic coach if a championship is possible.

I'm not sure it gives UGA an edge. Maybe, but playing for a legend is a huge draw. Who wouldn't want to say they played for Bear Bryant, for instance? Nick Saban? You better believe it!