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re: WJOX announces Trash throwers will charged with assault if found.
Posted on 10/19/21 at 12:13 pm to TheFourHorsemen
Posted on 10/19/21 at 12:13 pm to TheFourHorsemen
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WJOX announces Trash throwers will charged with assault if found.
0% chance most of those charges will stick. Throwing an empty bottle of water or can on the field does not fit the statutory requirements for assault in Tenn. criminal code. The only persons that could be charged with assault are those that actually hit someone and/or threw full water bottles (and one golf ball). There is almost no way for them to be able to tell which fans threw full water bottles, empty water bottles, and which fans actually hit someone on the sidelines with anything.
For reference, here is the statute for assault
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39-13-101. Assault.
(a) A person commits assault who:
(1) Intentionally, knowingly or recklessly causes bodily injury to another;
(2) Intentionally or knowingly causes another to reasonably fear imminent bodily injury; or
(3) Intentionally or knowingly causes physical contact with another and a reasonable person would regard the contact as extremely offensive or provocative.
I'm sure the police will overcharge this thing to send a message, as they tend to do, and any decent lawyer will have no problems taking care of it after the fact. They really just need to pay the fine and everyone move the hell on. This is turning into the January 6 commission lol
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Posted on 10/19/21 at 12:14 pm to TheFourHorsemen
We used to throw oranges at Tennessee but UK clamped down hard on that. UT needs to do the same to their hooligans.
Posted on 10/19/21 at 12:16 pm to lsufball19
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I'm sure the police will overcharge this thing to send a message, as they tend to do, and any decent lawyer will have no problems taking care of it after the fact. They really just need to pay the fine and everyone move the hell on.
Posted on 10/19/21 at 12:16 pm to Nitro Express
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That's too far imo. Give them community service and a fine, but assault? Give me a damn break.
They're doing this because assault is a class A misdemeanor which comes with a max fine of $2,500 and 11/29 in jail, whereas the appropriate charge, disorderly conduct, is a class C misdemeanor with a max fine of $50 and 30 days in jail. Now they'll make up some of the difference with multiple court appearances (court costs) negotiating those charges down.
This post was edited on 10/19/21 at 3:51 pm
Posted on 10/19/21 at 12:17 pm to paperwasp
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Be curious to get lsufball19's take on this.
Sounds like some local attorneys are about to make bank getting these charges thrown out.
Apparently there's already been local Knoxville defense attorneys voice their willingness to take these cases pro bono
Posted on 10/19/21 at 12:19 pm to lewis and herschel
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Should throw a Pep Rally sting for all students, round them up and take them to parts of town needing trash pucked up, they already dressed for it.
"This Friday only! Free Grizzly wintergreen, Busch Light, and scratch-offs! Come to Neyland Stadium!"
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Posted on 10/19/21 at 12:26 pm to Nitro Express
Welcome to the surveillance state, brought to you by 99% of Democrats and more than half of the Republicans
Posted on 10/19/21 at 12:31 pm to East Coast Band
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January 6 style insurrection punishment upcoming.
Trashers fricked.
Posted on 10/19/21 at 12:41 pm to threedog79
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This will go well. Suspect(s) description: white m/f 230 for female(s) 265 for male(s). Bearded (for both). Ages 18-63. Wearing orange (for both). Dipping crap Skoal (for both).
UT has big brother cameras in the stadium, all the SEC has them. Facial recognition can be done. For students it will be somewhat easy, they have their student IDS.
It just depends on how much UT wants to do with it.
Posted on 10/19/21 at 12:58 pm to TheFourHorsemen
Damn. Gonna get punished harder than the Texas kid who shot up his school.
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Posted on 10/19/21 at 1:00 pm to Nitro Express
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That's too far imo. Give them community service and a fine, but assault? Give me a damn break.
Community service and/or a fine is exactly what someone will get for misdemeanor assault in Alabama. I’d imagine it is pretty much the same on Tennessee. Don’t get caught up in the common meaning of the word as opposed to the legal one. Misdemeanor assault is a very low end charge.
Posted on 10/19/21 at 1:04 pm to Insurancerebel
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UT has big brother cameras in the stadium, all the SEC has them. Facial recognition can be done. For students it will be somewhat easy, they have their student IDS.
It just depends on how much UT wants to do with it.
No they don't have facial recognition security cameras in Neyland, nor in most (if any) SEC venues. In fact, the chancellor of UT has discussed adding more security cameras focused on the student section in response to all of this
Posted on 10/19/21 at 1:06 pm to JustGetItRight
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Misdemeanor assault is a very low end charge.
While the pleas are generally probation and fines, assault is a Class A misdemeanor in TN, the most serious of misdemeanors offenses.
Posted on 10/19/21 at 1:12 pm to Nitro Express
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Give them community service and a fine
They're already wearing the colors for roadside garbage pickup.
Posted on 10/19/21 at 1:21 pm to lsufball19
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lsufball19
Posted on 10/19/21 at 1:30 pm to lsufball19
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No they don't have facial recognition security cameras in Neyland, nor in most (if any) SEC venues. In fact, the chancellor of UT has discussed adding more security cameras focused on the student section in response to all of this
I don't know if they have "facial recognition" cameras or not, but it makes me recall a long, long time ago my fraternity would have the Chief of Campus Police over to dinner once a year as a gesture of goodwill. He always brought a blown-up picture on a poster board of our fraternity block at football games. It was all pretty light-hearted, but the message was clear...we know who you are and we see what you do.
If they were watching that closely back then, I would think they have the technology today to identify a good many of these kids.
Posted on 10/19/21 at 1:32 pm to paperwasp
They may not be able to prove someone who is identifiable and on video as throwing trash that it hit someone....but the conference is still requiring Tennessee to ban that person from all athletic events until next fall.
Posted on 10/19/21 at 1:41 pm to Tornado Alley
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I think he posted something about a max fine of $50? Watch out!
This is so stupid. If you want to make a point have them clean the stadium after the next home game for community service. But that doesn't provide cheap $$ to the city.
Posted on 10/19/21 at 1:43 pm to NFLSU
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You've started 4 threads in less than 20 minutes.
I know you're "new" here..but chill the frick out.
The poster is an attention whore
Posted on 10/19/21 at 1:50 pm to lsufball19
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(2) Intentionally or knowingly causes another to reasonably fear imminent bodily injury; or
TN seems to combine battery/assault into one crime, but this is the general rule for assault, and I feel like this one's pretty easy to charge in this case.
Any reason you see otherwise?
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