re: With all this talk about Dan Mullen being a candidate for new job

Again, this is a new time for MSU. A lot has changed since the days of AD's not giving a shite. By the way, you know why our current recruiting class is ranked this high? It's called kids growing up and not knowing MSU sucked so bad. They only know guys in the NFL from Miss State like Fletcher Cox, Dak Prescott, Benardrick McKinney, Gabe Jackson, KJ Wright, Josh Boyd etc etc. Dan Mullen broke a thought process that if you go to MSU you are limited.

The single biggest issue was never being able to recruit QB's, now we are deep there. Like I said, things have changed and getting better. But you are entitled to your misguided thoughts.

Come on now. State is never winning a title. I get what you're trying to say, and at some programs that would be a viable option, but mississippi state isn't going to win a title. I would say that texas am would be a job that you're line of thinking would apply to. They have the resources and recruiting footprint to possibly do some damage and win a title one day, but you're talking about miss state. They have never won a national title in ANYTHING, EVER. They have only played for it 2 times in baseball and womens basketball. Like I said, it would take a miracle for state to win a national title in football in the division and conference they happen to be in. For instance, LSU and nick saban were a program in your line of thinking, a sleeping giant that hadn't won a national title in 50 years before then, but that was LSU, it was just a matter of time before the right coach got it going, not mississippi state.

In all honesty, I like ran mullen, and respect what he's done at msu. I think he's a good coach too. He's done wonders for state. I just don't see him passing up the florida job. I may be wrong though.

Here's another thing to consider is that Mullen knows with ole miss current and future troubles, he is about to clean up in state recruiting. While there's not talent in mississippi to make 2 legitimate contenders, there is enough to make 1. The only two light position groups in mississippi recruiting year in and year out are OL and QB. And nobody can doubt mullen's ability to find and develop a Qb at this point.

If he plays this ole miss down cycle right 9-3, 10-2 could go from being the ceiling to the new norm.

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If he plays this ole miss down cycle right 9-3, 10-2 could go from being the ceiling to the new norm.

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He has slowly been pulling State away from OM to the point that they honestly are not our measuring stick anymore.

Look at it this way, State is likely about to go 9-3 this year, no big deal except that equals the best season in modern OM history and what they could only hope to accomplish through massive cheating and the ensuing scandal,

If he stays and keeps his foot on their neck they are done and we own MS talent for the forseable future and that would lead to exactly what you describe.

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LSU overlooks state

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Losing by 30 is more than "overlooking" a team.

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He returns vitually the entire team next year with depth and better players in key spots

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If he returns that is

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Because with all of that killer talent he has returning to state next year, he knows he will still be a mediocre team. Its fricking miss st dude, it shouldn't be too tough to figure out. Some people want to be the best at their craft and shoot higher than being a coach at miss st, which limits the amount of success you can have due to its disadvantages as a program in the sec. It's in the bottom 3rd of programs in the sec and that aint changing. Some people want to live somewhere other than starkville miss an coach at a bigtime program. Some coaches want to actually win a title and leave a legacy behind. Some coaches want to strive to be the best they can be. None of these will happen for mullen at state, ever. That's why he would leave state for a better program. Not saying he will, but if he plans on ever winning even an sec title, he should leave state, because we all know state will never win a title with the programs that it has to face every year. They're outclassed as a program man, period. Sure, they might win a game here and there when the other program overlooks them, but let's be real, they aren't going to go toe to toe with bama, lsu, auburn, texas am or even ole miss when they're cheating, lol, consistently. Just isn't gonna happen.

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Everything here may be somewhat valid. But the options this year are for the other SEC teams. I’m sorry to inform you but there’s only one big time program here. Bama. Georgia has a chance to get there now. All the rest are the same. It’s to the point that MSU actually has as much chance as anyone not named Bama. Y’all lost to Troy and we destroyed you. You’re now on the same level as us. And it’s not getting better for you. You’re recruiting just as many 3 stars now as us. So there’s nothing another SEC team has that State doesn’t unless it’s Bama.

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There is another line of thinking on that front as well though. Maybe Dan is the type of coach that doesn't want to go where it's been done before...where it would be almost immediately expected again. Maybe he is the type of coach that wants to do it where it's never been done. He may want to leave his legacy at a place where it will live forever (similar to Steve Spurrier). If he ever won the SEC at state, even once, he would be a legend forever. And he has worked hard, toiled, and sweat to build State into a respectable program that may just climb that hill. I wouldn't just discount the fact that he is not a competitive coach just because he stays at State. If anything, he is carving his own way despite the disadvantages.

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thank you. Somebody gets it. What's the fun, where it's been done. Mullen will have statues and buildings named after him, if he continues to build. He hasn't plateaued yet. Next years team is shaping to be the best yet, ever on paper. He has QB's lined up for the 18 & 19 class. And of course y'all know who Keytaon Thompson already is. The future looks brighter than ever and he knows it. This isn't your grand daddy's it even daddy's Bulldogs anymore. Yeah Tigers, we've beat you twice also in 4 years. Could have easily been 4/4. I understand why you want him to leave though, so you can that automatic W like in the 90's,00's.