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re: will the TRO against the SEC matter?

Posted on 8/27/26 at 6:17 pm to
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 8/27/26 at 6:17 pm to
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When a player sues the NCAA, they get a TRO preventing the NCAA from declaring them ineligible. Once the season is over, it doesn’t matter whether they are eligible so the case becomes moot.


I don't think that's accurate.

By that token, Pavia could be declared ineligible after the fact and Vandy would have to vacate anything he won. Same with Chambliss.

I believe anything that happens during the TRO period is protected from retroactive penalties.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 8/27/26 at 6:18 pm to
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Kiffin and Landry have been very vocal and visible in their criticism of the SEC in all of this.


So?
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 8/27/26 at 6:19 pm to
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I believe anything that happens during the TRO period is protected from retroactive penalties.


It is or these players wouldn’t have played, be playing.

Don’t listen to the mouth breathers.
Posted by JayAg
Member since Jun 2021
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Posted on 8/27/26 at 6:21 pm to
He isn’t at our school, your school is recruiting him.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52678 posts
Posted on 8/27/26 at 6:22 pm to
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He isn’t at our school, your school is recruiting him.


*Anymore

He’s transferring after SIGNING with your school so go ahead and hop down off that high horse you fricking hypocrite.
Posted by Dixie.Reb
Oxford
Member since Jul 2013
3484 posts
Posted on 8/27/26 at 6:26 pm to
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I believe anything that happens during the TRO period is protected from retroactive penalties.


Not a lawyer, so maybe you are right. But it sure seems like the SEC specifically phrased their rule in a way that was different from the broad category of “eligibility” the NCAA has.

The NCAA determines eligibility separately so a TRO declaring players eligible means the schools are not violating NCAA rules. And when the case is dismissed for moistness, there is no violation for the NCAA to go after.

The SEC on the other hand lists specific actions (signing an NFL deal) that are not subject to interpretations and never says that players are ineligible, just that schools will face penalties for playing them.

If the TRO protects LSU, why aren’t the players on the roster tonight?
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 8/27/26 at 6:29 pm to
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If the TRO protects LSU, why aren’t the players on the roster tonight?


Because it hasn’t been granted. That’s what Monday is about.
Posted by Sl0thstronautEsq
Member since Aug 2018
18939 posts
Posted on 8/27/26 at 6:30 pm to
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I believe anything that happens during the TRO period is protected from retroactive penalties.


It's a bit complicated and depends on a a few factors, but the NCAA bylaws give the NCAA recourse here (although I think recently the NCAA has agreed not to take action):

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12.9.4.2 Restitution. If a student-athlete who is ineligible under the terms of the bylaws or other legislation is permitted to participate in intercollegiate competition contrary to such NCAA legislation but in accordance with the terms of a court restraining order or injunction operative against the institution attended by such student-athlete or against the Association, or both, and said injunction is voluntarily vacated, stayed or reversed or it is finally determined by the courts that injunctive
relief is not or was not justified, the Board of Directors may take any one or more of the following actions against such institution in the interest of restitution and fairness to competing institutions: (Revised: 4/26/01 effective 8/1/01, 11/1/07 effective 8/1/08, 8/1/22, 8/31/22 effective 1/1/23, 6/6/25 effective 7/1/25)
(a) Require that individual records and performances achieved during participation by such ineligible student-athlete shall be vacated or stricken;
(b) Require that team records and performances achieved during participation by such ineligible student-athlete shall be
vacated or stricken;
(c) Require that team victories achieved during participation by such ineligible student-athlete shall be abrogated and the
games or events forfeited to the opposing institutions;
(d) Require that individual awards earned during participation by such ineligible student-athlete shall be returned to the
Association, the sponsor or the competing institution supplying same;
(e) Require that team awards earned during participation by such ineligible student-athlete shall be returned to the Association, the sponsor or the competing institution supplying same;
(f) Determine that the institution is ineligible for one or more NCAA championships in the sports and in the seasons in which such ineligible student-athlete participated;
(g) Determine that the institution is ineligible for invitational and postseason meets and tournaments in the sports and in
the seasons in which such ineligible student-athlete participated;
(h) Require that the institution shall remit to the NCAA the institution's share of television receipts (other than the portion shared with other conference members) for appearing on any live television series or program if such ineligible student-athlete participates in a contest selected for such telecast, or if the Board of Directors concludes that the institution would not have been selected for such telecast but for the participation of such ineligible student-athlete during the season of the telecast; any such funds thus remitted shall be devoted to the NCAA postgraduate scholarship program; and
(i) Require that the institution that has been represented in an NCAA championship by such a student-athlete shall be assessed a financial penalty as determined by the Committee on Infractions.


Division 1 Manual 2025-2026

Apologies for the formatting.
This post was edited on 8/27/26 at 6:31 pm
Posted by Veritas
Member since Feb 2005
11297 posts
Posted on 8/27/26 at 6:33 pm to
Have we not learned how worthless the NCAA is? Their rules do not mean anything.

Why do you think they are seeking an exemption from antitrust laws.

That is the core of the protect college sports act.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Member since Dec 2019
73750 posts
Posted on 8/27/26 at 6:34 pm to
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Not a lawyer, so maybe you are right. But it sure seems like the SEC specifically phrased their rule in a way that was different from the broad category of “eligibility” the NCAA has.


I'm not a lawyer either so I could be wrong on some of this. Just trying to understand it all like everyone else.

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The SEC on the other hand lists specific actions (signing an NFL deal) that are not subject to interpretations and never says that players are ineligible, just that schools will face penalties for playing them.


I believe the players are attempting to argue that the SEC (or other conferences) are conspiring with the NCAA for "another route" to keep the players from playing.

I'm not sure how effective that'd be, I don't think these players would be massive difference makers either way.


Posted by Dixie.Reb
Oxford
Member since Jul 2013
3484 posts
Posted on 8/27/26 at 6:46 pm to
Here’s the thing though, player suits against the NCAA have a direct injury/remedy between parties. The NCAA has declared a player ineligible and the player wants that reversed. The player has standing to sue because they are the directly injured party.

For enforcement against the school, sure, players can argue that the SEC is limiting their earning potential, but in that case the remedy is forcing the SEC to monetarily compensate them for lost wages. LSU would be the party that has standing to sue the SEC over the rule itself and so far they haven’t done that
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Member since Dec 2019
73750 posts
Posted on 8/27/26 at 6:49 pm to
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Here’s the thing though, player suits against the NCAA have a direct injury/remedy between parties. The NCAA has declared a player ineligible and the player wants that reversed. The player has standing to sue because they are the directly injured party.

For enforcement against the school, sure, players can argue that the SEC is limiting their earning potential, but in that case the remedy is forcing the SEC to monetarily compensate them for lost wages. LSU would be the party that has standing to sue the SEC over the rule itself and so far they haven’t done that


I think the players are trying to argue that any order against the NCAA should apply to its member conferences as well.

I would assume their case only looks stronger as more conferences join the "ban" against pro athletes. Limits the players' options and starts to look more like collusion.

This post was edited on 8/27/26 at 6:50 pm
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 8/27/26 at 6:49 pm to
none of that is true. What the SEC is doing, in essence, is declaring that these players are ineligible to play in the SEC this season. It’s the same thing as the NCAA. The courts are not going to force the schools to file suit. The players have standing.
This post was edited on 8/27/26 at 6:50 pm
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 8/27/26 at 6:52 pm to
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none of that is true. What the SEC is doing, in essence, is declaring that these players are ineligible to play in the SEC this season. It’s the same thing as the NCAA. The courts are not going to force the schools to file suit. The players have standing.


But it's two different things. Sec is a member organization beholden to the conference and their rules. That's like a judge coming in and saying "hey these two guys entered into a contract. I think the contract sucks so I'm changing it."
This post was edited on 8/27/26 at 6:52 pm
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
23144 posts
Posted on 8/27/26 at 6:54 pm to
That’s fine and good and that may very well be an issue on the merits, but that has nothing to do with whether the players have standing.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52678 posts
Posted on 8/27/26 at 6:56 pm to
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But it's two different things. Sec is a member organization beholden to the conference and their rules. That's like a judge coming in and saying "hey these two guys entered into a contract. I think the contract sucks so I'm changing it."


That’s exactly what the judges are doing with the players

You do realize every player is a member of the NCAA and is beholden to its rules, correct? They even sign a contract saying so.
Posted by Dixie.Reb
Oxford
Member since Jul 2013
3484 posts
Posted on 8/27/26 at 7:02 pm to
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I think the players are trying to argue that any order against the NCAA should apply to its member conferences as well.


Isn’t that a slippery slope though? Everyone agrees that an individual school can decide not to play these players. Why is a 16 team conference more like the 300 school NCAA than individual schools making their own decisions? Where is the bright line? If 2 schools agree not to recruits NFL players can they be sued? What about 4? It’s not like the NCAA told the SEC to do this
This post was edited on 8/27/26 at 7:03 pm
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