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Posted on 3/12/12 at 11:53 am to AlaTiger
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No I don't. I've watched football for more than 5 minutes. I think that Alabama and LSU place a premium on line play more than other schools do, though. Their overall style is different than say, Oregon.
Maybe they are just better at it.
It also seems as though neither team thinks that the QB is the most important position on the field, but that it is a team game.
The difference in the NCG was the position that you claim to think neither program thinks is the most important one on the field.
In the Natty, Alabama put the game in the hands of its QB. They did not pound the rock until the 2nd half, & Richardson had a very pedestrian game until his late TD scamper which inflated his yards.
Alabama won the game with two conceptual scheme attacks that they executed to perfection & LSU did not defend well at all:
The QB waggle play & the smash route concept routes from their receivers.
The waggle required the defense to respect the run-game early & at the same time required the LB to cover in space-something that was our weak point. There was also a definite advantage expressed on a personnel basis when you look at Bama TE's vs LSU LB's.
Bama churned out good positive momentum using it early, & it also served the dual purpose to get McCarron into the flow of the game early. Being a bit of a streaky passer, that was exactly what the doctor ordered for him & Bama.
The Smash Routes required guys like Brandon Taylor & Mathieu to cover longer routes but also required Bama to protect McCarron adequately. They absolutely did & we absolutely did not do a good job with them in coverage.
I should've known when I saw McCarron throwing them over and over again towards our side of the field in warm-ups that they were going that route. It was an excellent gameplan & a well-executed one.
But one that was incredibly risky. Giving McCarron the responsibility to truly go after the weakest points of a defense that had little to any? Takes brass balls, if you ask me. I mean think about it. Bama went away from the run & attacked what you would think is the teeth of the LSU defense on a macro level.
But it was a calculated risk that gave McCarron easy throws against the weakest aspects of our defense through the air (waggle) as well as the highest percentage success plays with a semi-vertical tint (smashes).
Worked and worked well. Won a national title with it. Hats off to them for the film breakdown, the practice time put in, & most importantly, the on-the-field execution.
This post was edited on 3/12/12 at 11:56 am
Posted on 3/12/12 at 11:57 am to AlaTiger
A combination of great talent evaluation and roster managment (processing) gave both teams the depth and skill that allowed them to play ball control O exposing the lack of depth of the also rans like Arkansas who were not deep enough to hang all 4 quarters.
My answer in a word DEPTH
My answer in a word DEPTH
Posted on 3/12/12 at 12:00 pm to AlaTiger
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Why Were Bama & LSU So Much Better Last Year?
Cam Newton.
This can be left up to interpretation.
Posted on 3/12/12 at 12:03 pm to NYCAuburn
hmmm....gonna go out on a limb here and say...Talent!!!!
Posted on 3/12/12 at 12:05 pm to KillianRussell
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KillianRussell
You remind me of Mickey Fartpants.
Posted on 3/12/12 at 12:08 pm to Stonehog
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Mickey Fartpants
Fartpants too mentioned the lack of depth and how that related to the fourth quater collapses of the almost good ?
Posted on 3/12/12 at 12:09 pm to Fatbackhawg
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hmmm....gonna go out on a limb here and say...Talent!!!!
Not big on agreeing with Arkansas fans, but this one must have actually gone to Arkansas because this makes the most sense. Oregon has been extremely successful with its new scheme, but you don't see many teams running to that model. You work with the talent you have, and LSU and Bama were definitely the two most talented teams last year. They aren't redefining the wheel, they're just playing hard nose football. In this day of "pass happy teams," the old school style is a little uncommon. Teams like Bama, LSU, Penn St, and Stanford aren't the norm anymore.
Posted on 3/12/12 at 12:31 pm to America1776
Because Bama and LSU are the only programs that put a major emphasis on defense, a power running game and an overall balanced offensive attack.
You don't need a Cam Netwon or Tim Tebow to be successful with this scheme. Hell LSU was blowing teams out with Jordan Jefferson.
You don't need a Cam Netwon or Tim Tebow to be successful with this scheme. Hell LSU was blowing teams out with Jordan Jefferson.
This post was edited on 3/12/12 at 12:34 pm
Posted on 3/12/12 at 12:42 pm to BrerTiger
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You forgot "takes gigantic drag on an unfiltered Chesterfield"
damn, i sure did. but i think the Bear pretty much nailed it.
"The same things win, that always won...(drinks whiskey, takes gigantic drag on an unfiltered chesterfield, and eats golden flakes).. And we just have a different bunch of excuses if we lose" - Bear Bryant
This post was edited on 3/12/12 at 12:43 pm
Posted on 3/12/12 at 12:49 pm to Chimlim
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Because Bama and LSU are the only programs that put a major emphasis on defense, a power running game and an overall balanced offensive attack.
You don't need a Cam Netwon or Tim Tebow to be successful with this scheme. Hell LSU was blowing teams out with Jordan Jefferson.
Not true at all. Auburn, Georgia & Florida all aspired to or produced decent defenses or top flight power running games in the past two years.
The reasons those teams couldn't get it done last year?
Florida - No QB, and trasitioning away from a niche offense (Triple Option from the Spread is a niche, don't care what you say).
Auburn - Lost their entire starting OL-which was a very good one by the way-after winning the National Title. Oh by the way they lost their Heisman Trophy winner in Cam Newton. Their defense had horrible depth problems year before last and again this year.
Georgia - Will always lean towards the pass. Had a good talent that will get better in Crowell. But their defense was flat out great this year.
Can't say I agree with any part of that first sentence. It makes zero sense.
Posted on 3/12/12 at 12:50 pm to bbvdd
bbvdd wrote:
quote:Exactly.
Nick Saban
Posted on 3/12/12 at 12:53 pm to AlaTiger
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AlaTiger
Why Were Bama & LSU So Much Better Last Year?
This also happened just a couple years ago when Florida and Bama were far and away the best two teams in the country
The SEC has a handful of powerhouse programs and when things break right at one of those (usually with good coaching, team chemistry, and recruiting all coming together) it can work out that two of the best teams in the country were from the same conference
Posted on 3/12/12 at 12:56 pm to GFunk
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Can't say I agree with any part of that first sentence. It makes zero sense.
The first part of his sentence makes sense like this. You noted Auburn's lack of depth on D, ball control leaves thin D's gassed.I disagree with the only teams hyperbole, however the stout D and ball control formula works with a decided edge in the depth of talent
Posted on 3/12/12 at 1:02 pm to GFunk
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Auburn, Georgia & Florida all aspired to or produced decent defenses or top flight power running games in the past two years
power run game at Florida? da frick?
pretty sure every team tries to produce a "decent defense"
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Bama and LSU are the only programs that put a major emphasis on defense, a power running game and an overall balanced offensive attack
Georgia was the closest to creating that mix. they also were by far the most successful of the three teams you mentioned.
Posted on 3/12/12 at 2:21 pm to ALcapone
Alabama and LSU have better players, more depth than other SEC teams. This really isn't that hard to figure out. It doesn't have much to do with the schemes IMHO.
This post was edited on 3/12/12 at 2:22 pm
Posted on 3/12/12 at 2:23 pm to AlaTiger
Because Arkansas sucked arse on the road. If we played both of yall @ Ark last year we would have won.
DWI.
eta: damn, it feels good to go full retard homer in a thread.
DWI.
eta: damn, it feels good to go full retard homer in a thread.
This post was edited on 3/12/12 at 2:25 pm
Posted on 3/12/12 at 2:28 pm to 870Hog
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If we played both of yall @ Ark last year we would have won.
With a gameday atmosphere like there is in fayetteville, LSU would have never pulled the comeback and alabama wouldn't have gotten out to a lead on us.
Posted on 3/12/12 at 2:36 pm to ALcapone
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power run game at Florida? da frick?
pretty sure every team tries to produce a "decent defense"
So wait, you quoted me & yet you still don't understand? Florida transitioned AWAY from an overly-ground oriented (which was very much a POWER-oriented) ground game and towards a more balanced approach (just didn't have the personnel to do it to their liking) and you're confused?
Can't explain it for you again. You'll just have to live with it.
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Georgia was the closest to creating that mix. they also were by far the most successful of the three teams you mentioned.
The point that I was driving at was a rebuttal of someone else who said that our two (being LSU & Bama) program's were the only ones who were putting an emphasis on these things.
It's clearly factually incorrect to state this as fact when the examples I listed may have been imperfect but were definitely striving for just that. Attrition or coaching turnover prevented the results we achieved, but that doesn't mean they didn't put an emphasis on it.
You're not looking at my post within its proper context, which was a response to someone else.
Posted on 3/12/12 at 2:37 pm to AlaTiger
every other team sucked.....
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