re: Why was LSU football so bad in the '90s?

Has A&M finished in the top 5 since WW2? Yall hate Sumlin, but he was your best coach since then.

Okay, Bert.

2012 was one, thanks to Sherman's recruits. I don't hate Sumlin, either. He did some things well, just not a lot.

Arkansas was the same in that they won the SWC twice a decade. We also finished ranked in the top 20 just a bout each year. If a coach finished with less than nine wins and can't beat Texas then the seat was getting hot.

Our problem is that Frank Broyles stayed way too long and should have let Terry Don Phillips be his replacement, you know the one who hired Dabo Swinney. But instead we got stuck with Jeff Long who got us Bert, John L Smith and Bobby Petrino. Yes that sounds strange that I would include him but a prime Frank Broyles would not have hired him. Why? Because Frank had the uncanny ability to see weakness or trouble prone coaches.

After the 1989 year, the declined started and we have never recovered since then. Ken Hatfield was run out of Fayetteville and yet he was doing nothing more than winning the SWC and playing in major bowls. But the offense was boring and he couldn't win the big games according to many fans. Well when you play elite teams such as Oklahoma or Miami, what do you expect?

Our football program is dead. It was killed by Bert and Jeff Long. Then the Chad came and incinerated the body. Hunter Yuracheck was hired and had some personality traits that were similar to a young Frank Broyles. Just like Frank, he had high expectations for coaches even telling Eric Musselman after his first win that this better be the first of many wins.


So like anything else. Hire a bad AD and they will hire a bad coach. You get worse until they end up like us. It is that simple and everything else is a bad excuse as to why it can't be done.

Arkansas still leads the series with A&M by a considerable margin even after losing the last 8, so I'd say yall are a much better program for than A&M historically. Maybe if both Ark and UT had been strong in the early 90s the SWC would've been in a position of strength with the Big Eight. The Hogs have had higher highs and lower lows than the Aggy since the SWC.

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I don't know what Tulane, the team that has more SEC championships than A&M has played for, has anything to do with it. But regardless, I'm sure they'd agree that we wouldn't need to "educate" you if you weren't so willfully blind to your schools glaring lack of success and delusional to the point that you think A&M's on par with the football programs whose fans you're attempting to argue.

Key word "attempting" in that last sentence

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Can't take the shite you dish out. So weak. Not sure who ever commented that A&M is on anyone's level, but you have some brain malfunction telling you that aggy can't talk shite back. Wake up, son. Now go kick rocks.

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Wrong right out of the gate

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we've got a live one here!

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i just thought it was unfortunate y'all broke the agreement

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aggies still lying about this

here comes the links to old articles

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changed it from an annual team to a program

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people forget that this happened at EVERY historically great program; nd, army, bama, fsu, texas, tenn, michigan, osu. there was a coach in their history that demanded excellence. after that, the program was able to get good coaches and players and avoid long droughts. occasionally, that didn't work out like with ole miss.

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If hired Spurrier would have turned LSU around

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Turn LSU around? There wasn't anything to turn around in the 80's. A couple Sugar Bowls and an Orange, back when making those were a huge deal. Arnsparger had LSU poised to become the power they later became under Saban/Miles.

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but would have eventually left for Florida where he played.

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Notice how I mentioned Miles? You THINK Spurrier would leave, but Florida wasn't Big 6 yet, they were Kentucky level. 1 SEC title and that was erased.

If Spurrier had spawned a monster at LSU, he might have stayed a decade or more, and Florida may never have emerged.

CFB Warehouse had a very comprehensive methodology for ranking the programs historically. Prior to 2000, figuring wins, bowls, championships, etc- it had LSU ranked 14 best in cfb history. Digging into it, it was pretty hard to refute. LSU was always on the cusp, always a threat to beat you in the bowl game, but not quite consistent enough to get over the hump.