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re: Why isn’t Drinkwitz mentioned for any jobs?
Posted on 11/22/21 at 11:29 am to kczoutiger
Posted on 11/22/21 at 11:29 am to kczoutiger
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If he was gifted the same roster that Pittman inherited and only won 10 games in 2 years, Mizzou would want him fired.
If you think Sam Pittman inherited some awesome roster you don't understand anything about Arkansas. People see Burks and Catalon and assume we had some badass roster but there were a lot of holes.
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Posted on 11/22/21 at 11:35 am to Exinator
I'll try to be objective as a Mizzou fan. The reason he hasn't been offered a top tier job is because:
1 - He won at App State with the previous head coach's players.
2 - His big wins at Mizzou are against down opponents - LSU last year and Florida this year.
3 - He hasn't shown that he can develop players for the NFL yet.
Next year if he does well with his recruits, he'll be considered for better jobs (ie Auburn) but not elite jobs. I said this from the beginning, he left App State and NC State pretty quickly so if he does well at Mizzou I could see him leaving.
1 - He won at App State with the previous head coach's players.
2 - His big wins at Mizzou are against down opponents - LSU last year and Florida this year.
3 - He hasn't shown that he can develop players for the NFL yet.
Next year if he does well with his recruits, he'll be considered for better jobs (ie Auburn) but not elite jobs. I said this from the beginning, he left App State and NC State pretty quickly so if he does well at Mizzou I could see him leaving.
This post was edited on 11/22/21 at 11:46 am
Posted on 11/22/21 at 11:45 am to PorkSammich
He took over an App State program that was built by other people and maintained it for one 12-1 year.
Quite frankly, Mizzou probably gambled a bit to hire him.
Perhaps he'll build something at Mizzou, but as of yet, his body of work isn't enough to draw any major interest.
It's sort of funny to see a "Why aren't the good programs trying to hire away our coach?" thread.
Quite frankly, Mizzou probably gambled a bit to hire him.
Perhaps he'll build something at Mizzou, but as of yet, his body of work isn't enough to draw any major interest.
It's sort of funny to see a "Why aren't the good programs trying to hire away our coach?" thread.
Posted on 11/22/21 at 11:47 am to FayetteNAM
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No one is reading that shite
True that!
Posted on 11/22/21 at 11:48 am to multicampus
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Quite frankly, Mizzou probably gambled a bit to hire him.
Right, and I'm still one of the few Mizzou fans that thought Odom got a bad deal. He went through a bunch of bad luck only to get fired a bit abruptly.
Posted on 11/22/21 at 11:50 am to blueprint_one
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He won at App State
I didn't know he had coached at App State. Why did he leave? Missouri's a lateral move.
Posted on 11/22/21 at 12:24 pm to mouse_cop
We beat a bunch of teams with higher recruiting rankings this year
that shite ain't all it's cracked up to be
that shite ain't all it's cracked up to be
Posted on 11/22/21 at 12:29 pm to Riggle
I am not saying its a badass roster, I am saying that the roster construction Pittman inherited compared to Drink isn't even comparable.
Posted on 11/22/21 at 12:35 pm to Porker Face
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We beat a bunch of teams with higher recruiting rankings this year
that shite ain't all it's cracked up to be
There is an extremely high correlation between recruiting and on the field success. It is all it’s cracked up to be, you guys just apparently landed a coach who can overcome that to a degree - much like Pinkel did for us for years. But look at what UGA did to you. At some point you really can’t overcome a talent gap.
Posted on 11/22/21 at 12:37 pm to BreakawayZou83
Just like Bama destroyed those piggies right? Texas sure showed them.
This post was edited on 11/22/21 at 12:40 pm
Posted on 11/22/21 at 12:49 pm to DMagic
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Why can’t Arkansas just enjoy their fat coach in peace? Your constant need for validate your hire is desperation personified
Insecure U
Posted on 11/22/21 at 12:51 pm to Exinator
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Exinator
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Tiger_Claw,
Arkansas fans don't care if he didn't take our job. I certainly don't.
you're being trolled newbie
dummy
Posted on 11/22/21 at 12:52 pm to kczoutiger
You realize our entire DL was brought in by Sam right?
Also our best running backs
Got to have an OL and DL to play in the SEC and Pittman is responsible for both of those
Also our best running backs
Got to have an OL and DL to play in the SEC and Pittman is responsible for both of those
Posted on 11/22/21 at 1:10 pm to dchog
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Just like Bama destroyed those piggies right? Texas sure showed them.
I didn't say teams with less talent can't win or that teams with talent can't have other issues. I said there is a very high correlation between recruiting and on the field success. Here are some facts for you obstinate piggies:
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[O]f the 34 rosters to compete in the last 17 national title games, 32 of them were formed with at least one top 10 class within the last four seasons. Only Oregon, again, was an exception. But even the Ducks were built with fringe top-10 classes; from 2010 to 2012 Oregon finished 13th, 12th and 13th respectively in the 247Sports Composite Team Recruiting Rankings.
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When looking at the average recruiting rank over the four-year period that preceded each national champion since 2003 (247Sports’ database goes back to the turn of the century), it’s become clear that top-tier recruiting is the precursor to the ultimate prize.
Note: The average ranks below were rounded to the nearest whole number.
SEASON NATIONAL CHAMPION AVERAGE RANK
2003 LSU 12th
2004 USC 8th
2005 Texas 8th
2006 Florida 5th
2007 LSU 8th
2008 Florida 5th
2009 Alabama 8th
2010 Auburn 16th
2011 Alabama 3rd
2012 Alabama 2nd
2013 Florida State 6th
2014 Ohio State 4th
2015 Alabama 1st
2016 Clemson 13th
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From the dawn of the BCS era (1998) through the College Football Playoff (2014), one constant holds true: if you’re not among the nation’s best recruiting programs, you are barred from Title Town.
Source
Posted on 11/22/21 at 1:17 pm to mouse_cop
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When he turned down the Arkansas job before coming to Missouri, it sent a message that he wants to build something at Missouri and cares about more than just money. So that’s why he won’t get poached for a while
yikes its sad you believe this. Arkansas is no bama or florida or even UT. If a good school came calling, he would answer.
Posted on 11/22/21 at 1:19 pm to BreakawayZou83
No it isn't but I'm not going to argue with you
You aren't going to win an NC, so that shite doesn't apply to you
You aren't going to win an NC, so that shite doesn't apply to you
Posted on 11/22/21 at 1:38 pm to kczoutiger
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I am not saying its a badass roster, I am saying that the roster construction Pittman inherited compared to Drink isn't even comparable.
We had the worst O line in the SEC when Sam came in and some Missouri transfers immediately started for us this year. I think it's comparable.
Posted on 11/22/21 at 1:44 pm to Riggle
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We had the worst O line in the SEC when Sam came in and some Missouri transfers immediately started for us this year. I think it's comparable.
I swear you piggies think you can just make shite up and it becomes fact. Arkansas averaged around the 25th recruiting class for the four years before Pittboss arrived. Mizzou was hovering around 40th. Y'all had a fair bit more talent than us and it's ridiculous to pretend that you didn't. Kudos to Pittman for using the portal, but this is a bad piggie take.
Posted on 11/22/21 at 1:46 pm to BreakawayZou83
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I swear you piggies think you can just make shite up and it becomes fact
I'm not making anything up. Our offensive line was terrible. This is a fact.
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Arkansas averaged around the 25th recruiting class for the four years before Pittboss arrived.
Definitely had talent but there were obvious holes on the roster.
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Y'all had a fair bit more talent than us and it's ridiculous to pretend that you didn't. Kudos to Pittman for using the portal, but this is a bad piggie take.
Missouri literally had players transfer to Arkansas and start for us. Our roster was more talented sure but acting like it's not even comparable is dumb.
Posted on 11/22/21 at 1:47 pm to Golfer1
Yes, that still doesn't disprove anything I said about the Mizzou roster situation vs Arkansas.
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