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re: Why isn’t Drinkwitz mentioned for any jobs?
Posted on 11/23/21 at 11:10 am to PorkSammich
Posted on 11/23/21 at 11:10 am to PorkSammich
I dont know. It would be cool to have a coach "Dink".
Posted on 11/23/21 at 11:13 am to kczoutiger
You missed the two OL Pittman brought in that start. The rest were 3 star guys on the OL and again he added 25 to 30 pounds to each of them but OL is his specialty. Not like those guys were highly recruited and they sucked @$$ before Pittman arrived and weren’t even good last year
I get what you are saying about Burks. Yes he is a freak but was coming to AR no matter the coach. Arkansas fan/kid growing up.
Every single DL player was brought in by Pittman. You missed Ridgeway who is our best. Pittman portal guy. No way Williams and Utsey wouldn’t have started for you this year. Williams has been more than ok. Think he’s been SEC DL of week twice
Two former walk ons are starting at LB and Pool from Texas grew up Arkansas fan. Family went to Arkansas. So no big star guys at LB
Smith is good at RB but he is no longer the starter and was a 3 star guy. All of our best RBs. Johnson, Sanders and AJ Green are Pittman guys. We have about 6-7 guys on offense that are Pittman guys
Slusher is our starting safety now due to Catalon being out for year but was Pittman guy. Brown is out only good DB and Arkansas kid. Secondary is our weakness in defense.
Our defense is mainly 3 star players minus Slusher.
About 5-6 defensive guys are Pittman players
Kicker has won us several games as well. Pittman recruit.
I get what you are saying about Burks. Yes he is a freak but was coming to AR no matter the coach. Arkansas fan/kid growing up.
Every single DL player was brought in by Pittman. You missed Ridgeway who is our best. Pittman portal guy. No way Williams and Utsey wouldn’t have started for you this year. Williams has been more than ok. Think he’s been SEC DL of week twice
Two former walk ons are starting at LB and Pool from Texas grew up Arkansas fan. Family went to Arkansas. So no big star guys at LB
Smith is good at RB but he is no longer the starter and was a 3 star guy. All of our best RBs. Johnson, Sanders and AJ Green are Pittman guys. We have about 6-7 guys on offense that are Pittman guys
Slusher is our starting safety now due to Catalon being out for year but was Pittman guy. Brown is out only good DB and Arkansas kid. Secondary is our weakness in defense.
Our defense is mainly 3 star players minus Slusher.
About 5-6 defensive guys are Pittman players
Kicker has won us several games as well. Pittman recruit.
This post was edited on 11/23/21 at 11:16 am
Posted on 11/23/21 at 12:04 pm to Golfer1
I am going off the depth chart from last week and this week, there isn't a single starting OL that was a Pittman commit. I understand developing and coaching them up, as with every team.
You cannot just disregard Burks as a throw away comment, but that just furthers my point about the difference of starting points of where Mizzou was at compared to Arkansas before their coaches were hired.
Williams and Utsey did play for us for 4 years and brought ok results, but were far from world beaters and were never the best on our DL. They were good depth guys. Even if they did start for us this year, I do not see much of a difference. Williams shows up for 2 or 3 games and disappears.
Catalon wasn't a Pittman guy, he was brought in before, and yes Slusher was a good recruit that was brought in.
My point, which is still correct, in that when the coaches were brought in, the talent level and recruiting where no where near the same. This is because Odom tanked the roster. Sure, we have had a handful of lower ranked guys perform very well, as have you, but the base roster and skill positions are no where near comparable. This isn't even arguable. I am not discrediting Pittman for bringing in transfers, even if it is just for one year on the DL, but its not nearly the same roster rebuild.
Drink the last year and this years recruiting will bridge that gap and we will start to see those guys next next year.
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You cannot just disregard Burks as a throw away comment, but that just furthers my point about the difference of starting points of where Mizzou was at compared to Arkansas before their coaches were hired.
Williams and Utsey did play for us for 4 years and brought ok results, but were far from world beaters and were never the best on our DL. They were good depth guys. Even if they did start for us this year, I do not see much of a difference. Williams shows up for 2 or 3 games and disappears.
Catalon wasn't a Pittman guy, he was brought in before, and yes Slusher was a good recruit that was brought in.
My point, which is still correct, in that when the coaches were brought in, the talent level and recruiting where no where near the same. This is because Odom tanked the roster. Sure, we have had a handful of lower ranked guys perform very well, as have you, but the base roster and skill positions are no where near comparable. This isn't even arguable. I am not discrediting Pittman for bringing in transfers, even if it is just for one year on the DL, but its not nearly the same roster rebuild.
Drink the last year and this years recruiting will bridge that gap and we will start to see those guys next next year.
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Posted on 11/23/21 at 12:24 pm to kczoutiger
Drinkwitz isn't being looked at for any bigger jobs because he's 11-10 at his current job. That's not going to turn any heads or get any attention.
Again - just as Beth Mowens is terrible as an announcer - it surprised me that "Why ain't Coach Drink getting more attention" is even a question.
Missouri - you're solidly in the bottom third of the conference right now. You lost to Kentucky. No coach gets a promotion based on that.
Again - just as Beth Mowens is terrible as an announcer - it surprised me that "Why ain't Coach Drink getting more attention" is even a question.
Missouri - you're solidly in the bottom third of the conference right now. You lost to Kentucky. No coach gets a promotion based on that.
Posted on 11/23/21 at 12:30 pm to ScoggDog
That's quite the insight you provided.
Thank you for your service.
Posted on 11/23/21 at 12:31 pm to BreakawayZou83
Great post detailing Coach Drink's recruiting advances in Missouri and neighboring states.
Plus, he pulled quarterback Sam Horn out of Georgia. Things are looking up.
Plus, he pulled quarterback Sam Horn out of Georgia. Things are looking up.
Posted on 11/23/21 at 12:31 pm to mouse_cop
This argument works for some coaches: Pittman, Orgeron, Smart, Harbaugh, maybe Riley, maybe Beamer.
Drink is a merc and is going to dump you for a prettier girl at the dance first chance he gets.
No shame in that. That's most coaches. But don't kid yourself.
Drink is a merc and is going to dump you for a prettier girl at the dance first chance he gets.
No shame in that. That's most coaches. But don't kid yourself.
Posted on 11/23/21 at 12:35 pm to Mizz-SEC
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That's quite the insight you provided. Thank you for your service.
You are quite welcome. Because when the OP literally asks ... "Why isn't Drinkwitz mentioned for any jobs ?" ... you'd think at least one person would tell that sweet summer child - "Because your favorite coach is only 11-10. Nobody wants him yet, because he's a .500 coach at Missouri."
Alas - you didn't tell him. Either because you didn't have it figured out, or you just didn't have the heart to say it.
You. Are. Welcome.
Posted on 11/23/21 at 12:36 pm to kczoutiger
I’ll give you Burks was a great 4 star player.
Again our LBs are two former Walk ons. Never said Catalon was Pittman recruit but Slusher is. Our DBs are the weak spot of our defense
Ridgeway is our best DL. Portal guy.
Our best RBs are all Pittman guys. They were good recruits brought in by him for sure. Johnson was actually a Odom guy.
I don’t think anyone will argue our OL is a direct result of Pittman
Those guys have all added 30+ pounds since he arrived and been coached up.
Cunningham 3 star guy(71 Juco guy)
Latham 3 star guy (#1071 recruit lol)
Stromberg 3 star (#501 guy)
Limmer 3 star guy (#672)
Wagner 3 star guy (#604)
Again Pittman is the reason for the trenches at Arkansas which wins in the SEC. Nobody will deny he is the reason for the OL due to that being his specialty. He’s brought in some 4 star OL since being at Arkansas but none of our starters were good recruits on OL or worth a crap before he arrived. He went into the Portal for immediate help on the DL and brought in some players on the OL and DL for the future.
You are acting like we have 4 stars everywhere. Most of our players are 3 stars that have been coached up. Trenches built by Sam
Again our LBs are two former Walk ons. Never said Catalon was Pittman recruit but Slusher is. Our DBs are the weak spot of our defense
Ridgeway is our best DL. Portal guy.
Our best RBs are all Pittman guys. They were good recruits brought in by him for sure. Johnson was actually a Odom guy.
I don’t think anyone will argue our OL is a direct result of Pittman
Those guys have all added 30+ pounds since he arrived and been coached up.
Cunningham 3 star guy(71 Juco guy)
Latham 3 star guy (#1071 recruit lol)
Stromberg 3 star (#501 guy)
Limmer 3 star guy (#672)
Wagner 3 star guy (#604)
Again Pittman is the reason for the trenches at Arkansas which wins in the SEC. Nobody will deny he is the reason for the OL due to that being his specialty. He’s brought in some 4 star OL since being at Arkansas but none of our starters were good recruits on OL or worth a crap before he arrived. He went into the Portal for immediate help on the DL and brought in some players on the OL and DL for the future.
You are acting like we have 4 stars everywhere. Most of our players are 3 stars that have been coached up. Trenches built by Sam
Posted on 11/23/21 at 12:37 pm to Golfer1
Makes sense considering you will have a 7-5 season with one of those wins against a pathetic Texas team.
Posted on 11/23/21 at 12:45 pm to BreakawayZou83
Some Arkansas fans have trouble reading past a sentence or two on a good day. Your post probably included some words they didn't understand, like "the."
But to be kinder, I'm guessing the ones who said they didn't read it actually read every word. They just didn't like it that their prized coach is being out-recruited by a guy who turned them down.
But to be kinder, I'm guessing the ones who said they didn't read it actually read every word. They just didn't like it that their prized coach is being out-recruited by a guy who turned them down.
Posted on 11/23/21 at 12:45 pm to everytrueson
We will be 8-4 with the hardest schedule in the country but carry on…
As bad as Texas is they would have waxed Mizzou week 3 this year.
You lost to freaking BC who wouldn’t have made a bowl game without adding Mizzou as a rent a win this year
As bad as Texas is they would have waxed Mizzou week 3 this year.
You lost to freaking BC who wouldn’t have made a bowl game without adding Mizzou as a rent a win this year
This post was edited on 11/23/21 at 12:47 pm
Posted on 11/23/21 at 12:47 pm to Golfer1
This argument is like pulling teeth, but that saying won't make sense to someone from Arkansas.
I never said your team was full of 4* players, I have just compared it to where Mizzou was at when both of these coaches were hired.
The talent that was already on the team was head and shoulders above where Mizzou was at. Yes, I understand that Pittman took those already highly recruited players and players that needed to be coached up, brought in some players the last recruiting class and transfers to get to where you are today.
My initial comment was if Drink had that roster and was at 7 wins, Mizzou fans would not be happy. We are sitting at 6 in a salvaged season getting bowl eligible.
I never said your team was full of 4* players, I have just compared it to where Mizzou was at when both of these coaches were hired.
The talent that was already on the team was head and shoulders above where Mizzou was at. Yes, I understand that Pittman took those already highly recruited players and players that needed to be coached up, brought in some players the last recruiting class and transfers to get to where you are today.
My initial comment was if Drink had that roster and was at 7 wins, Mizzou fans would not be happy. We are sitting at 6 in a salvaged season getting bowl eligible.
Posted on 11/23/21 at 12:51 pm to kczoutiger
Again none of the OL were even close to being highly rated. They weren’t even close to that.
Running backs brought in by Pittman. We are one of the best running teams in the country. Put two and two together.
Yes, Arkansas fans are happy winning 8 games this year with the hardest schedule in the country. Mizzou is winning 6 games with the easiest SEC schedule. You got 3 bad non conference teams. Really 4 but lost to one of them and then Vandy, SC and Florida who just fired their coach.
Stop acting like us winning 8 games and Mizzou winning 6 are comparable. We had the hardest schedule in the country and played the only good SECE team this year.
Hogs would have one loss with Mizzous schedule so yea if we would have won 8 with your schedule we would be pissed
Also Texas would have smoked y’all week 3 this year but you already know that
Acting like Mizzou fans wouldn’t be happy with winning 8 Games this year with the hardest schedule in America is laughable at best. Factor that in with we didn’t win a SEC game for 2.5 years before Sam and yea we are happy and Mizzou fans would be the same way.
Hell most of y’all were predicting 8 wins this year and some predicted 9-10 so yea y’all should be really disappointed. Boston College is awful and you somehow lost to them
Running backs brought in by Pittman. We are one of the best running teams in the country. Put two and two together.
Yes, Arkansas fans are happy winning 8 games this year with the hardest schedule in the country. Mizzou is winning 6 games with the easiest SEC schedule. You got 3 bad non conference teams. Really 4 but lost to one of them and then Vandy, SC and Florida who just fired their coach.
Stop acting like us winning 8 games and Mizzou winning 6 are comparable. We had the hardest schedule in the country and played the only good SECE team this year.
Hogs would have one loss with Mizzous schedule so yea if we would have won 8 with your schedule we would be pissed
Also Texas would have smoked y’all week 3 this year but you already know that
Acting like Mizzou fans wouldn’t be happy with winning 8 Games this year with the hardest schedule in America is laughable at best. Factor that in with we didn’t win a SEC game for 2.5 years before Sam and yea we are happy and Mizzou fans would be the same way.
Hell most of y’all were predicting 8 wins this year and some predicted 9-10 so yea y’all should be really disappointed. Boston College is awful and you somehow lost to them
This post was edited on 11/23/21 at 12:57 pm
Posted on 11/23/21 at 12:54 pm to Golfer1
once again, point right over your heaad
Posted on 11/23/21 at 12:55 pm to kczoutiger
Arkansas fans can’t accept that their DC can’t recruit for shite.
If he could, he wouldn’t be their DC.
Our new guy is recruiting circles around theirs, and they know that if they have a chance to break the streak then they better do it now. That’s why they are projecting so hard
If he could, he wouldn’t be their DC.
Our new guy is recruiting circles around theirs, and they know that if they have a chance to break the streak then they better do it now. That’s why they are projecting so hard
Posted on 11/23/21 at 12:55 pm to ScoggDog
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Alas - you didn't tell him. Either because you didn't have it figured out
Oh we all figured it out. I'm surprised you haven't.
Posted on 11/23/21 at 12:59 pm to kczoutiger
No it is not. If Arkansas started with better players than Missouri then they wouldn't have starters as walk ons at WR, LB and safety.
Posted on 11/23/21 at 1:01 pm to JesusQuintana
Your new DC won’t be there after next year.
Can’t go back to back with worst D in conference and stick around
Are you still dead last in total defense?
Your DC has two 4 stars to our one so if that’s recruiting circles congrats.
We are going to the Portal for help which is something Drink should look into
Can’t go back to back with worst D in conference and stick around
Are you still dead last in total defense?
Your DC has two 4 stars to our one so if that’s recruiting circles congrats.
We are going to the Portal for help which is something Drink should look into
This post was edited on 11/23/21 at 1:10 pm
Posted on 11/23/21 at 1:04 pm to dchog
Lol right. This guy just doesn’t get it. We literally have two walk ons starting at LB, All Pittman players on DL and OL that were ranked 500 or lower. If they can’t see that’s Pittmans speciality I can’t help them.
Also our RBs are Pittman guys.
These are the same clowns that predicted their defense would be better this year and they would win 8-10 games with their weak schedule.
Now they just have excuses.
What they fail to realize is if Drink doesn’t hit the Portal this year they will win 5-6 games again next year.
Florida and TN will both be improved next year in the East and so will SC. Kentucky will still be better than them as well
Also our RBs are Pittman guys.
These are the same clowns that predicted their defense would be better this year and they would win 8-10 games with their weak schedule.
Now they just have excuses.
What they fail to realize is if Drink doesn’t hit the Portal this year they will win 5-6 games again next year.
Florida and TN will both be improved next year in the East and so will SC. Kentucky will still be better than them as well
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