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Why does the south have more big, strong, fast D linemen than everywhere else?

Posted on 1/19/20 at 12:22 pm
Posted by Slippy
Across the rivah
Member since Aug 2005
6571 posts
Posted on 1/19/20 at 12:22 pm
Was listening to some show on Sirius XM the other day in the car, and some dude was talking about the Pac 12, Big 12 and most of the Big 10 being at a "geographical disadvantage" because they simply don't have the defensive linemen that we have in the south. He never actually explained why that is.

Is there some reason that California, with all those millions of people, can't turn out a few good defensive tackles?

I think we know why, but I'm not sure we can have an honest conversation about it.

Posted by Buzz Killington
Member since Nov 2019
1477 posts
Posted on 1/19/20 at 12:23 pm to
More black kids. Let's just be honest.
Posted by WhitewaterDawg
Tennessee
Member since Aug 2011
7233 posts
Posted on 1/19/20 at 12:24 pm to
Breeding? I know that is sensitive and will offend most but isn’t that what you are looking for?
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39108 posts
Posted on 1/19/20 at 12:26 pm to
quote:

Breeding? I know that is sensitive and will offend most but isn’t that what you are looking for?

That’s stupid. No one is breeding defensive linemen. The other poster got it right. There are more black kids down south.
Posted by Bengalbio
Tampa, FL
Member since Feb 2017
1415 posts
Posted on 1/19/20 at 12:26 pm to
Diet and demographics.
Posted by WhitewaterDawg
Tennessee
Member since Aug 2011
7233 posts
Posted on 1/19/20 at 12:26 pm to
Ok
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
17879 posts
Posted on 1/19/20 at 12:27 pm to
quote:

I think we know why, but I'm not sure we can have an honest conversation about it.

Best recent D lineman from my state, Florida, were the bosa brothers
Posted by calcotron
Member since Nov 2007
8237 posts
Posted on 1/19/20 at 12:28 pm to
Is Jimmy the Greek still alive?
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
priapism survivor
Member since May 2011
14836 posts
Posted on 1/19/20 at 12:29 pm to
quote:

Breeding



yes and it stems from slavery
Posted by HottyToddy7
Member since Sep 2010
13979 posts
Posted on 1/19/20 at 12:29 pm to
Did you not take American history growing up? It’s no secret.
Posted by WhitewaterDawg
Tennessee
Member since Aug 2011
7233 posts
Posted on 1/19/20 at 12:29 pm to
That what I was going for but obviously I’m stupid. So carry on.
Posted by TigerCruise
Virginia Beach, VA
Member since Oct 2013
11898 posts
Posted on 1/19/20 at 12:35 pm to
Blacks in the south were bred to get stronger slaves.

This is common knowledge.
Posted by FourThreeForty
Member since May 2013
17290 posts
Posted on 1/19/20 at 12:41 pm to
Work it harder
Make it better
Do it faster
Makes us stronger

More than ever
Hour after
Our work is
Never over
Posted by jatebe
Queen of Links
Member since Oct 2008
18280 posts
Posted on 1/19/20 at 12:45 pm to


2010 census
Posted by PeeJayScammedGT
Kennesaw, GA
Member since Oct 2019
2148 posts
Posted on 1/19/20 at 12:56 pm to
quote:

More black kids. Let's just be honest

Partially correct but not the entire story

In the Deep South not only do you have more Black kids, but the real reason for more fast DLs is almost all Black kids play tons of basketball , both organized and pickup games, when the tall kids outgrow basketball and get upwards of 270lbs the HS FB coach finds them and gets them to play DL or OT

OTOH many white kids play baseball, a Sport that requires a lot less running & explosion vs basketball so when the white kids "outgrow" baseball and get upwards of 270lbs the HS FB coach finds an athlete that is a little less mobile than the same size Black kid that outgrew basketball

IMO, it's more about environment and choices rather than ethnicity
This post was edited on 1/19/20 at 1:02 pm
Posted by PeeJayScammedGT
Kennesaw, GA
Member since Oct 2019
2148 posts
Posted on 1/19/20 at 12:59 pm to
quote:

Best recent D lineman from my state, Florida, were the bosa brothers 

Their Dad was an NFL player, maybe a LB or DE , so maybe the Bosas aren't the best example
Posted by FreddyGold
Member since Jan 2020
45 posts
Posted on 1/19/20 at 1:03 pm to
The climate and diet of most Northerners tends to promote increased storage of fat during the winter. There are plenty of Blacks in New York and Illinois and Ohio- probably as many as are in the South. But you will notice steep drop off in SEC caliber DL types north of the Mason Dixon line.

In short the Southern climate leads to less adipose tissue development (among active people of course) than that of colder climates.
Posted by wmr
North of Dickson, South of Herman's
Member since Mar 2009
32518 posts
Posted on 1/19/20 at 1:09 pm to
The same reason Arkansas and Kentucky are at a "demographic disadvantage" for cfb players, but Mississippi isn't.
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
19276 posts
Posted on 1/19/20 at 1:10 pm to
Look at the delta
Posted by wmr
North of Dickson, South of Herman's
Member since Mar 2009
32518 posts
Posted on 1/19/20 at 1:14 pm to
Look at that map and you'll see part of the reason why Arkansas is like two completely different states if you draw a line from Texarkana to the Missouri Bootheel.

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