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re: Why do people think that Alabama does not have NIL money?

Posted on 9/1/25 at 6:44 am to
Posted by caliegeaux
Member since Aug 2004
12639 posts
Posted on 9/1/25 at 6:44 am to
If all you’re buying is chargers, that’s not too much money.
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
9449 posts
Posted on 9/1/25 at 6:50 am to
When you’re competing for the top tier, 5 star players that are the difference in winning big games, bamma will lose every time against Texas, Oregon, OSU, TAMU.

They will split against FL, UGA, Auburn, LSU, Old Miss, TT and a dozen others.

This isn’t 2012 anymore, where bamma was the only program throwing out big cash and getting anyone they want. Players and their families today want cash and no one gives a schitt about your tudish talk.
Posted by thekid
Anna, Tx
Member since May 2006
4047 posts
Posted on 9/1/25 at 6:51 am to
It’s just like Saban said, “give all that money to the wrong players and you’ll be shite outta luck”
They are doing like A&M did a few seasons ago…buying players instead of building a team.
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
9449 posts
Posted on 9/1/25 at 6:55 am to
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Recruiting will drop if the ship isn't righted. Programs that develop talent like Bama under Saban, Ohio State, Georgia, etc, don't have to drop as much on high school recruits because they put a ton of players in the NFL. If I'm a blue chip recruit and one of those schools offers 500k with a shot at being developed into a first round pick I'm taking that over higher offers from schools that don't have that track record.


You might do that.

The kid being offered $5K more to sign with Texas Tech is saying “f&@k those bamma people they dissin me”
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
13185 posts
Posted on 9/1/25 at 7:17 am to
quote:

When you’re competing for the top tier, 5 star players that are the difference in winning big games, bamma will lose every time against Texas, Oregon, OSU, TAMU.

They will split against FL, UGA, Auburn, LSU, Old Miss, TT and a dozen others.

This isn’t 2012 anymore, where bamma was the only program throwing out big cash and getting anyone they want. Players and their families today want cash and no one gives a schitt about your tudish talk.


Except your analogy is wrong. In the current ranking for recruiting Alabama is right there. On par with them or ahead like OSU. Also only Oregon can currently match them for the number of 5 stars committed.

Some of you look up things before posting.

UGA btw is ahead all the programs you mentioned.
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
4132 posts
Posted on 9/1/25 at 7:20 am to
Best I could find, but really didn't look for long.

Top 50 NIL schools

At the start of last season, Bama was ranked 12th.
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
9449 posts
Posted on 9/1/25 at 7:21 am to
Are all offers in? Nope

So commit all you want. Those people will jump the first time FL or TAMU or Oregon offer 5K more.

It’s your new reality. There was a time when you were the only one standing at the door when Black Friday began, now it’s a riot
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
13185 posts
Posted on 9/1/25 at 7:21 am to
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They shouldn't have got caught up in the moment of him winning with a couple great players and hired him.


They didn't. Alabama took the best option available at the time. Yes they were other coaches out there better than DeBoer but the issue is who wants to follow Saban.

My opinion is DeBoer is on a short leash right now. If this direction continues my guess is by October behind the scenes conversations will be had on who will replace him. With recruiting the way it is now you cannot wait to go looking for a new coach after the season.
Posted by BigSneezy
Member since Nov 2020
5653 posts
Posted on 9/1/25 at 7:24 am to
Yes it is Alabama football. You are what you do. Not what you wanna do.

And right now this IS Alabama football. Embrace reality.

Because accepting that is the first step to changing it.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
13185 posts
Posted on 9/1/25 at 7:26 am to
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Are all offers in? Nope

So commit all you want. Those people will jump the first time FL or TAMU or Oregon offer 5K more.

It’s your new reality. There was a time when you were the only one standing at the door when Black Friday began, now it’s a riot


Again, research before posting because the 2025 we finished 3rd with only Texas and UGA ahead of us.

quote:

It’s your new reality.


Alabama has not gone anywhere, and the reality is the same programs each year are finishing near the top of recruiting in the new NIL era just like before the NIL was a thing. The only thing different is maybe a few programs like a Colorado or next year TTech make a little splash but NIL has not changed a thing for the top programs including Alabama.
This post was edited on 9/1/25 at 7:27 am
Posted by Pastor Mike
Florida
Member since Dec 2020
7003 posts
Posted on 9/1/25 at 7:31 am to
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NIL money is not the issue at Alabama, it’s a head coach who has no idea what he’s doing.

This is the answer
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
9449 posts
Posted on 9/1/25 at 7:40 am to
bamma for the past decade has beat people with superior talent, most often on the DL and at CB. There’s a long line of CBs in the NFL who helped them win games.

There’s best player in the state last year - the kind of player you would normally use to make sure you beat an FSU on the road - was 50 miles from Tuscaloosa, and he chose Oregon.

You can push and pull and twist all you want, but players now have a lot of options for cash, and as soon as someone offers more - see Caleb Downs, or Sayin - those great classes fall apart.

People are trying to help you down into that wheel chair. You should appreciate the help.
This post was edited on 9/1/25 at 7:41 am
Posted by Tiger2tiga
Member since Sep 2023
1280 posts
Posted on 9/1/25 at 7:45 am to
Nil isn’t the problem. 2023 #1 2024 #2 2025 #3 and is currently #5 for 2026. Team talent rankings they are #1. They have the Jimmie’s and joe’s just not the X’s and O’s.
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
9449 posts
Posted on 9/1/25 at 7:52 am to
Where are those studs from 2023 and 2024 playing?
Posted by RTRnFlorida
Member since Mar 2024
2940 posts
Posted on 9/1/25 at 8:03 am to
quote:

This isn’t 2012 anymore, where bamma was the only program throwing out big cash



Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
27706 posts
Posted on 9/1/25 at 8:56 am to
Didn't the Bear Bryant do pretty well there?
Posted by BrohemAlem11
Ratchet City, LA
Member since Oct 2014
13528 posts
Posted on 9/1/25 at 8:59 am to
Ya gotta buy these players more than a charger these days... Bama is cooked
Posted by kajunman
Member since Dec 2015
8517 posts
Posted on 9/1/25 at 9:06 am to
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If I'm a blue chip recruit and one of those schools offers 500k with a shot at being developed into a first round pick I'm taking that over higher offers from schools that don't have that track record.
We would like to think this but it's not true. Would you rather go to LSU or Michigan to be developed at qb ? Where did Underwood go ? LSU has lost high ranked in state players because of NIL. Would you go to USCw to be developed as a d lineman or LSU ? Yet we lost our top ranked d lineman to USCw.
Posted by Chip82
Athens, Georgia
Member since Jan 2023
1962 posts
Posted on 9/1/25 at 9:08 am to
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In essence, Bama is nothing without Saban



Saban left Bama primarily because of the 15 year Learfield contract.

Some know-it-all administrator stuffed his own pockets in spite of Saban's objections.

Any new Alabama coach is going to have to deal with the same set of handcuffs for the next decade.

And all of you Alabama fans will deny that there is truth to this issue.

LINK

This post was edited on 9/1/25 at 9:13 am
Posted by Freight Joker
Member since Aug 2019
3868 posts
Posted on 9/1/25 at 9:12 am to
I love that the SECtards are (and will always be) convinced Alabama had to pay players under Saban when in reality we were self reporting violations as small as going in fishing trips and selling text books.

fricking losers.
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