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re: Why do people continue to sleep on Kentucky Football?
Posted on 4/7/20 at 9:44 am to OrangeEmpire
Posted on 4/7/20 at 9:44 am to OrangeEmpire
Because they suck in football!!!!!
Posted on 4/7/20 at 9:45 am to Early Man
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UK has also beat Penn State (3rd in the Big 10 in 2018), VA Tech (division runner-up 2019).
Penn State went 9-4 and Virginia Tech went 8-5 (in a putrid ACC).
Again, these are solid wins that Kentucky folks should be happy about. They are not wins that teams competing for SEC Titles brag about, however, and that seems to be where some Kentucky folks want Kentucky to be considered. And the point is that while you should be happy for your success under Stoops, it does not warrant being discussed as possible SEC Contenders.
You have to beat other legitimate contenders to be seriously mentioned in that same breath.
This post was edited on 4/7/20 at 9:48 am
Posted on 4/7/20 at 9:46 am to Early Man
You're conflating people's opinions of Kentucky football with that of Stoops.
This isn't meant to be a pot shot at Kentucky, but TBH, Kentucky is holding Stoops back.
The power schools at the top of the conference make it very difficult for the other schools to make waves.
This isn't meant to be a pot shot at Kentucky, but TBH, Kentucky is holding Stoops back.
The power schools at the top of the conference make it very difficult for the other schools to make waves.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 9:49 am to SummerOfGeorge
This isn't a slight against Kentucky as Tennessee has been bad as well. They finally followed the Miss State model of "success" under Mullen. Schedule 4 winnable non-conference games and try to win your "rival" game from the West and then beat the bad teams in your division when they are bad. Getting to 7-8 wins is a doable formula to build momentum and then jump up to win 9-10 games every now and then. I'd be interested to know the last time Kentucky and Miss State both win 9 games or more in year or when Ole Miss and Vandy both won 9 games or more in a year.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 9:51 am to SummerOfGeorge
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And the point is that while you should be happy for your success under Stoops, it does not warrant being discussed as possible SEC Contenders.
This is the thing. OP's own definition of success would get a coach fired at about half of the schools in the SEC.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 9:51 am to Serraneaux
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This isn't a slight against Kentucky as Tennessee has been bad as well. They finally followed the Miss State model of "success" under Mullen. Schedule 4 winnable non-conference games and try to win your "rival" game from the West and then beat the bad teams in your division when they are bad. Getting to 7-8 wins is a doable formula to build momentum and then jump up to win 9-10 games every now and then. I'd be interested to know the last time Kentucky and Miss State both win 9 games or more in year or when Ole Miss and Vandy both won 9 games or more in a year.
Yep - and it has worked. They've got good players now, better every year. That happened by giving them the breathing room to develop guys and win enough games to make bowls and keep folks happy.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 9:52 am to Serraneaux
Not a slight against Kentucky either but while they continue to incrementally build, I’ve yet to see them make the next leap that says they’re one of the best in the league.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 9:55 am to TigerLunatik
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This is the thing. OP's own definition of success would get a coach fired at about half of the schools in the SEC.
Exactly, and that's not a slight. Of all people Kentucky should understand that. Most of us go to 5 straight NCAA Tournaments and win 20 games and we are giving that coach a 5-year extension (for a while, at least, until we get tired of that and want more....which is where Stoops will be in 2-3 years if he doesn't take a step).
At Kentucky a guy who goes to the NCAAT 10 out of 10 seasons and wins a national title gets fired for "only" getting to the 2nd round his last 2 seasons (after going to the Elite 8 in 2 of the previous 3).
This post was edited on 4/7/20 at 9:56 am
Posted on 4/7/20 at 9:56 am to jangalang
I mean they were absolutely one of the best in the league in 2018, and if we have a season, the 2020 cats will be better than that team. 2019 (8 wins) was a downward aberration because our top 3 or 4 qbs were hurt.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 9:57 am to Early Man
Future outlook.... better than Aggy
Posted on 4/7/20 at 9:59 am to LegendOfCobb
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I mean they were absolutely one of the best in the league in 2018, and if we have a season, the 2020 cats will be better than that team. 2019 (8 wins) was a downward aberration because our top 3 or 4 qbs were hurt.
2018 Kentucky got blown out at home by Georgia and blown out in Knoxville by a 7 loss Tennessee team, while also losing to a 4 loss Texas A&M team.
Very solid team, but clearly not in the same class as Georgia or Alabama in 2018.
This post was edited on 4/7/20 at 10:02 am
Posted on 4/7/20 at 10:01 am to Early Man
Kentucky certainly has more potential than Arkansad or either Mississippi school
Posted on 4/7/20 at 10:08 am to Early Man
UK football is heading in the right direction no doubt. They should be in a pretty good recruiting environment with ties to the SEC and proximity to the Midwest....I wouldn't be surprised if they won the SEC east someday....
The problem is history....UGA has won 80% of its games against UK in football, UT has won 70% and UF has won 74%.
Conversely, as universally accepted as UKs dominance in basketball is they win 83% of the time against UGA, 72% of the time against Florida and 68% of the time against UT….dominant, no doubt, but about on par with how they are being dominated by the top 3 SEC east programs in football.....UGA basketball is horrendous, on average so the dominance is about the same.....and Florida and UT, better traditionally in Basketball than UGA, win more in football against UK than UK does against them in Basketball....
The problem is history....UGA has won 80% of its games against UK in football, UT has won 70% and UF has won 74%.
Conversely, as universally accepted as UKs dominance in basketball is they win 83% of the time against UGA, 72% of the time against Florida and 68% of the time against UT….dominant, no doubt, but about on par with how they are being dominated by the top 3 SEC east programs in football.....UGA basketball is horrendous, on average so the dominance is about the same.....and Florida and UT, better traditionally in Basketball than UGA, win more in football against UK than UK does against them in Basketball....
Posted on 4/7/20 at 10:08 am to BowlJackson
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Kentucky certainly has more potential than Arkansad or either Mississippi school
Only because they play in the East
Arkansas is hopeless right now but will recruit better players on average than UK. The Miss schools definitely recruit better players
The East has been a shite show since Urban Meyer left Gainesville which has created the vacuum for UK to win some games especially in recent years when most of the East has been down and circulating new head coaches every few years
This post was edited on 4/7/20 at 10:09 am
Posted on 4/7/20 at 10:29 am to BowlJackson
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Kentucky certainly has more potential than Arkansad or either Mississippi school
Not bad, I think you could get a bunch if you made a thread about it
Posted on 4/7/20 at 10:42 am to Early Man
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Why do people continue to sleep on Kentucky Football?
Because they continue to sleep on the fans.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 10:45 am to Early Man
Little known fact- between 1952-2002, LSU and Kentucky played every year. And it was, year after year, a pretty solid game . By comparison, in those same years, LSU played Auburn only 19 times.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 10:53 am to burreauxxx
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Only because they play in the East
Arkansas is hopeless right now but will recruit better players on average than UK. The Miss schools definitely recruit better players
Arkansas hasn't been recruiting better players on average for 4 or 5 years now.
Kentucky has a unique pull in Ohio and Indiana that other SEC schools don't have. Stoops has done a much better job going into Ohio than any other UK coach in my lifetime. Keep building inroads and become the SEC team on the recruiting trail in the Midwest and they can go up northeast into Pennsylvania too, they potentially have a better recruiting base than MS which is landlocked by better SEC programs in every direction
Posted on 4/7/20 at 10:56 am to Early Man
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once in a decade make it to the SEC championship
I would like to see y'all in it at least once. Even USCe and Arkansas have been at least once.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 11:08 am to Early Man
Why?
Wake me up when they get to Atlanta
Wake me up when they get to Atlanta
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