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re: Why did Auburn get rid of Tuberville?

Posted on 10/2/15 at 8:16 am to
Posted by higgs_boson
State College, PA
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Posted on 10/2/15 at 8:16 am to
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I also read that if Auburn started ranked higher that they would have had a shot at the title?


Doubtful. The number 1 and 2 ranked teams from the preseason never lost a game that year.

No way either would have gotten jumped since they never lost.

So glad there is at least a four team playoff now.
Posted by DuncanIdaho
Ouray, CO
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 10/2/15 at 8:16 am to
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I still think he had the right idea about changing the offense, it just picked the wrong guy to implement it.

He didn't do any research on the guy, interviewed him for 15 min, didn't allow him to hire any of his own staff. I think Franklin knew his stuff, but I don't think Tubs knew what it took to implement it the right way.
Posted by PepaSpray
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Posted on 10/2/15 at 8:17 am to
For my enjoyment.
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 10/2/15 at 8:20 am to
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Not completely true about Dye. The NCAA sanctions had a lot to do with it as well.


Probation was nothing new to Auburn by that point though. I think it was your 6th or 7th. Barely a reason to bat an eye.

Besides, it was pretty apparent that most of your issues came from your BOT. That ran more like mafia leadership.
Posted by higgs_boson
State College, PA
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 10/2/15 at 8:20 am to
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He didn't do any research on the guy, interviewed him for 15 min, didn't allow him to hire any of his own staff. I think Franklin knew his stuff, but I don't think Tubs knew what it took to implement it the right way.


If I recall, there was a lot of resistance by the other coaches to Franklins' plans --- smaller, faster guys etc...

The other issue is and we have seen it at most schools, if you try and radically change the offense, you have to be prepared for a painful transition --- and few fans/alumni seem to have the patience that is required for that.
Posted by DuncanIdaho
Ouray, CO
Member since Feb 2013
14970 posts
Posted on 10/2/15 at 8:26 am to
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f you try and radically change the offense, you have to be prepared for a painful transition

See 2012

I liked Tubs a lot and look back upon him fondly. I think he lost his goodwill after 2003/2004 and really mailed it in on the recruiting front. It was a mutual split at the time considering the circumstances.
Posted by crimsontater
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Posted on 10/2/15 at 8:35 am to
36-0

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Posted on 10/2/15 at 8:46 am to
Posted by mostbesttigerfanever
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Posted on 10/2/15 at 8:47 am to
quote:

Why did Auburn get rid of Tuberville?


Saban

Tuberville had zero chance at recruiting next to saban
Posted by GeauxToBed
Covington, LA
Member since Mar 2015
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Posted on 10/2/15 at 8:49 am to
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Chizik/Malzahn won them an actual National Title unlike Tuberville.

2004 was a better Auburn team than 2013, and about even with 2010.
Posted by AUbagman
LA
Member since Jun 2014
11160 posts
Posted on 10/2/15 at 8:50 am to
Two trips to the NC game later, I think most Auburn fans are happy with the decision. Malzahn is still learning the HC position, and if Auburn fans are patient with him, I'm sure he'll get more consistent. The issue is Auburn's recent success also makes us less patient.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 10/2/15 at 8:53 am to
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Tuberville had zero chance at recruiting next to saban



He was lazily recruiting before Saban arrived. Guy was burned out. I liked him, still do, but Alabama upped the ante, and look where modern CFB has gone since Tubs was at AU.

He's just not of that mold.
Posted by nebraskafaninwi
Member since Mar 2013
2655 posts
Posted on 10/2/15 at 8:56 am to
Ah, a thread created about a non-P5 conference school beating an average P5 team in Miami that will have a new head coach next season.

Miami would have won that game easily if they didn't have their back end of the defense suspended for the first half.

Beating Miami at your own stadium is easier than beating Miami at Miami for whatever reason.
Posted by Smoke7024
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 10/2/15 at 8:58 am to
He got complacent.
Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
38793 posts
Posted on 10/2/15 at 8:59 am to
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Even Dye was shown the door (though much more gently than most others) after a 5-5-1 season where they were competitive in all but 2 losses


Coach Dye retired for 2 primary reasons:

1. NCAA probation, and
2. In the Spring of 1992, he was diagnosed with a condition known as hemachromatosis, which is a hereditary condition where the body sustains an overload of iron that with the potential of liver failure.

Coach Dye was in very ill health by the end of the 1992 season, so the combination of the NCAA troubles and his need for time to get healthy is what contributed to his retirement.
Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
38793 posts
Posted on 10/2/15 at 9:01 am to
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He got complacent.


In addition to the fact that he was perfectly fine with his agent dangling his name as a candidate for every college football head coaching job that came available.
Posted by Pavoloco83
Acworth Ga. too many damn dawgs
Member since Nov 2013
15347 posts
Posted on 10/2/15 at 9:04 am to
Tubbs made enemies in the power structure at Auburn and the bad blood ran both ways. His recruiting sucked as well the last couple of years.

I personally always really liked Tubbs.
Posted by Tigerman97
Member since Jun 2014
10354 posts
Posted on 10/2/15 at 9:11 am to
To be clear Auburn didn't get rid of Tubbs, they screwed up and gave him a way to leave with all the money based on his contract. He had issues with the leadership the entire time he was at Auburn.

I believe he should have stayed around and given it another shot, but I don't blame him for grabbing the money. I also don't know that Gus is hired if Tubbs is around which meant we would have continued to be UGA. Nine wins one year, ten another, then eight with no hardware to show for it.
Posted by thirdlawson
Nashville
Member since Oct 2011
9442 posts
Posted on 10/2/15 at 9:36 am to
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Blame Alabama, blame Georgia. Continual success at the two primary rivals will cause a neurosis of which there is no cure.


Continual success?!?!

:lol:

I'm 36 years old...Bama was trash in the 80's, decent from 89-94, ran off Gene, and had the 3-Mike debacle...until Saban came in. 2008-2012 was great to you, I'll give you that.

Georgia had Herschel...and then a couple years under Richt. That's it.

So continual success is an overstatement...better yet it's just a flat-out LIE.
Posted by thirdlawson
Nashville
Member since Oct 2011
9442 posts
Posted on 10/2/15 at 9:39 am to
quote:

2004 was a better Auburn team than 2013, and about even with 2010.



2004 Auburn is the 2nd best team in recent SEC history. Only 2008 Florida is better, even tho they blew their load vs Ole Miss
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