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re: Why are so many people sleeping on LSU??
Posted on 7/16/15 at 4:46 pm to Old Sarge
Posted on 7/16/15 at 4:46 pm to Old Sarge
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Now that seems like wishful thinking, at the very least severe homerism
Malachi and Dural have for sure 1st round potential, and Diarse, Quinn, and Ferguson will for sure be on an NFL roster.
Forgot to mention 5 star top prospect Tyron Johnson
This post was edited on 7/16/15 at 4:49 pm
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 4:47 pm to Roger Klarvin
quote:I mean he is right
Jesus Chris
Posted on 7/16/15 at 4:47 pm to tigerbait2010
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The only reason I'm reluctant on Arkansas to Atlanta is their schedule. I love what the pigs have coming back, but at LSU, Bama, UT, and Ole Miss is just brutal.
I think A&M is at the bottom of the SECW on paper, but I really like their schedule if they by Arizona State week one. 3 easy wins, a beatable Bama team at home, and they drew Carolina and Vandy from the East. I wouldn't be shocked if they went 9-3 with the schedule and Chavis patching things up just enough. I'm still not too high on Sumlin, but the aggie defense will surprise. Chavis did a very bang up job his first season at LSU.
I agree with you. I think it takes Chavis till mid season or a bit later to really get the Aggie defense going and that might cost them some games. The Arkansas schedule is just brutal this year. We could be greatly improved from last year and struggle to win 6 games.
If LSU gets decent QB play they are a contender. I like Auburn because if they can stay healthy, and Gus doesn't have too many games where he just draws a blank, playing Bama in Auburn for the West title is right up their alley.
If the cards play out right this is going to be an SEC West season that resembles an old school pro wrestling cage match. There will be a winner, but he'll be awfully bloody at the end of it.
Posted on 7/16/15 at 4:48 pm to Roger Klarvin
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Kevin Steele ran a 3-3-5 drop cover 4 scheme against an air raid offense in the 2012 Orange Bowl for the ENTIRE game.
Now that may not mean anything to the average LSU fan, but to those of us who understand football it is a damning indictment of his defensive game-planning abilities. That is, literally, the WORST defensive scheme you can possibly run against an air raid scheme. Had he WANTED to give up 70 he couldn't have intentionally picked a worse scheme.
Dana Holgerson was quoted after the game as saying they actually changed their offensive game plan at halftime despite being so successful because they were SURE Clemson would stop running the 3-3-5 cover 4. They never did, and WVU went back to what they were doing after one series in the second half.
Dana fricking Holgerson called out Kevin Steele's ability to call a defense. Holy fricking shite.
Lots of great DC have awful games sometimes. Your 1.6 million dollar man gave up the most single game rushing yards in school history in 2010, and a really bad 2014 Auburn team could have easily scored 70 on LSU last season. He also gave up more yards to that same West Virginia team and would have given up more points had the honey badger not just taken over the game like usual
Pelini, Venebales, Pruitt, etc have all had horrific individual game performances.
Posted on 7/16/15 at 4:48 pm to Old Sarge
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Brutal
I can't even fathom the cognitive dissonance that must be encountered when someone is forced to defend Steele as an SEC-caliber defensive coordinator.
For as bad as our own Mark Snyder was, Steele's resume is SIGNIFICANTLY worse. He has never been successful as anything more than a position coach.
Posted on 7/16/15 at 4:49 pm to lsupride87
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Malachi and Dural have for sure 1st round potential, and Diarse, Quinn, and Ferguson will for sure be on an NFL roster.
Forgot to mention 5 star top prospect Tyron Johnson
Hell throw Chark in there lol. But seriously Dupre and Dural will play in NFL. Maybe, MAYBE Quinn.
Quinn could be a bigger Wes Welker, slot type WR.
This post was edited on 7/16/15 at 4:51 pm
Posted on 7/16/15 at 4:51 pm to TopHog1
quote:Diarse will play in the Nfl. And the 5 star Tyron Johnson will be in the NFL too. Saying we have 5 NFL wide receivers isnt that big of a deal. Alot of teams have this. Hell we had one year where 3 receivers were taken in the same draft
Hell throw Chark in there lol. But seriously Dupre and Dural will play in NFL. Maybe, MAYBE Quinn.
Posted on 7/16/15 at 4:51 pm to TopHog1
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LSU ranked between 80th and 112th in total offense in five of the six seasons Chavis was in Baton Rouge. The Tigers posted at least nine victories in five of those seasons. They weren’t winning because of their mundane offense. Hey, even in 2013 when the Tigers' offense was filled with NFL talent like Odell Beckham, Jarvis Landry, Jeremy Hill, Zach Mettenberger and La'el Collins, LSU ranked just 35th in the nation.
Posted on 7/16/15 at 4:53 pm to tigerbait2010
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Lots of great DC have awful games sometimes
Not like that, not to the point where the gameplan itself has lost you the game before it even starts.
Players make mistakes, talent prevails and other coaching staffs game plan around your scheme. All are acceptable reasons for the occasional awful game. Running a cover four all game, out of the 3-3-5 no less, against the air raid is just flat out cluelessness. You get fired in 5A Texas HIGH SCHOOL football for that shite.
To put things in perspective, it is every bit as bad as running a base dime package against a flexbone triple option team.
Posted on 7/16/15 at 4:54 pm to Roger Klarvin
And Chavis ran 3-2-6 Mustang against them. Very few teams could stop WVU that year in the first place. He didn't use Cover 4 the entire game, either.
Posted on 7/16/15 at 4:54 pm to lsupride87
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Diarse will play in the Nfl. And the 5 star Tyron Johnson will be in the NFL too. Saying we have 5 NFL wide receivers isnt that big of a deal. Alot of teams have this. Hell we had one year where 3 receivers were taken in the same draft
No. I mean for his sake I hope the guy does. I just don't see how he would be playing on Sunday's in the NFL. I'll be nice and leave it at that. Don't be a homer.
Johnson, no one knows what he will do. Kinda of crazy to claim him as NFL talent when he hasn't played a game in college. Granted he was a stud in high school but he got the ball thrown to him all the time in that offense down there.
Posted on 7/16/15 at 4:55 pm to Roger Klarvin
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Jesus Christ
Dupre, Dural, and Tyron Johnson are all really high ceiling talents
You don't get much polished than Trey Quinn, and Diarse is a poor man's dwayne bowe with his physicality. I don't understand what's so inconceivable. Not sure if you've noticed but LSU is awfully good at getting receivers to the NFL, despite our awful qb play. Diarse and Quinn will make NFL rosters, despite their lack of stats. It hasn't stopped James Wright from starting at Cincinnati, and it won't stop these two.
This post was edited on 7/16/15 at 4:57 pm
Posted on 7/16/15 at 4:55 pm to TopHog1
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Quinn could be a bigger Wes Welker, slot type WR.
Wes Welker is arguably the greatest slot receiver in the modern NFL era. Trey Quinn has 17 career catches in his college career.
Stahp plz
Posted on 7/16/15 at 4:56 pm to TopHog1
quote:Look, I think it is extremely realistic to say LSU has 5 NFL wide receivers on the team. In 2013 we had 6. In 2007 we had 5. Most years we have at least 3-4. It isnt a crazy statement by any means. Yall overreacted to a very normal rational statement
No. I mean for his sake I hope the guy does. I just don't see how he would be playing on Sunday's in the NFL. I'll be nice and leave it at that. Don't be a homer.
Johnson, no one knows what he will do. Kinda of crazy to claim him as NFL talent when he hasn't played a game in college. Granted he was a stud in high school but he got the ball thrown to him all the time in that offense down there.
Posted on 7/16/15 at 4:56 pm to Roger Klarvin
Why is it that every time a thread gets made about LSU, a hoard of Aggies come into it to shite on Kevin Steele and boast Chavis? Are you that fricking insecure about your position in SEC football? This board has been ruined by the Aggies and their blatant ignorance. I've never seen a fanbase gets so bent by 3 letters.
This post was edited on 7/16/15 at 4:58 pm
Posted on 7/16/15 at 4:56 pm to TopHog1
Because LSU always underachieves. They're like A&M, but still in the closet.
Posted on 7/16/15 at 4:57 pm to Roger Klarvin
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Their offense is shite
Top2 or 3 RB/Oline tandems in the SEC, with WRs like Malachi Dupre and Travin Dural there's no shortage of talent anywhere besides at QB which Brandon Harris hopefully can fix.
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Their defense lacks quality front seven depth
The only area of inexperience is at DE. We return talented first year starters in LaCouture and Godchaux at DT, a beast of a MLB in Beckwith and two seniors at OLB. And I'm sure you already know our secondary will be dominant.
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Their new defensive coordinator got a train run on him by the anemic ACC during his time at Clemson
It was one game to a talented WV team. John Chavis didnt invent defense at LSU, under Bo Pelini LSU ranked 3rd in national defense 3 years in a row. As long as the talents there we'll be fine. After all, theyre the ones who play on the field.
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And even if they can overcome all of that and are in every single tough game at the end, Les Miles is still there "managing" the clock.
Posted on 7/16/15 at 4:57 pm to Roger Klarvin
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Wes Welker is arguably the greatest slot receiver in the modern NFL era. Trey Quinn has 17 career catches in his college career.
Stahp plz
I guess you can't comprehend?
I didn't say he would be better or as good. I said he could be a Wes Welker slot type.
The kid runs great routes, has hands and speed.
Posted on 7/16/15 at 4:57 pm to redeye
quote:In the last 15 years we have 2 national titles and 4 SEC titles
Because LSU always underachieves
ALWAYS underachieving Posted on 7/16/15 at 4:58 pm to lsupride87
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Look, I think it is extremely realistic to say LSU has 5 NFL wide receivers on the team. In 2013 we had 6. In 2007 we had 5. Most years we have at least 3-4. It isnt a crazy statement by any means. Yall overreacted to a very normal rational statement
Exactly. shite LSU had Randle, Beckham, Landry, Wright, Boone, and Dural on the roster in 2011. We've done it many times, and we'll do it again with this roster
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