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re: Who's the 3rd best active coach in college football?

Posted on 9/13/22 at 6:45 pm to
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
24856 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 6:45 pm to
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Pretty surprising and even disappointing to hear so many of you Georgia baws shite on Richt.

Literally no one shite on him here. We were down on players because Richt was terrible at managing the roster.

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. Dude had one losing season in 15 years, 10 of those 15 seasons with 10 or more wins, two 11 win seasons, one 12, and one 13 win season. Maybe he couldn’t win the big one, but he also coached through peak Saban. Maybe nobody’s favorite, but dogging a coach who wins like that is begging for some bad karma.


No one is dogging on him. He was a blessing to our program, doesn’t mean we can’t openly discuss his failures any less than we can discuss his successes.
Posted by Sgt Tuffnuts
Middle Georgia
Member since Jul 2022
2095 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 7:03 pm to
I'd still rank Dabo ahead of Kirby. Dabo is just in the middle of a quarterback shite pickle right now, but he'll figure it out. Clemson won't be down for long imo.
Posted by umop sujoH
Member since Jul 2021
302 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 7:18 pm to
Agree. I meant no disresoect to Kirby. He's upper crust as a coach for sure. But Dabo had a much tougher build and has had sustained success for quite a while now. I think there's a good chance Kirby gets that sustained success in time.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
63030 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 7:19 pm to
He comin
Posted by WestRockyTop
West Tennessee
Member since Dec 2019
7598 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 7:20 pm to
Dabo
Posted by Cooterlane
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2022
1409 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 7:25 pm to
If you’re ok with going to the SEC Championship game every year in a weak division and losing the conference championship game by a average of 17 points in your own state, losing a national title on a 2nd and 26 and winning one national title in a rematch game against a freshman QB with no wide receivers you take Kirby Smart.
This post was edited on 9/13/22 at 7:31 pm
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
38304 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 7:30 pm to
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He's upper crust as a coach for sure. But Dabo had a much tougher build and has had sustained success for quite a while now.


Maybe you forgot he gets the ACC
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
38304 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 7:31 pm to
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Maybe he couldn’t win the big one, but he also coached through peak Saban. Maybe nobody’s favorite, but dogging a coach who wins like that is begging for some bad karma.


It was much more than peak saban.

Facts don’t lead to bad karma.
Posted by Silverback911
Member since Jan 2022
845 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 7:32 pm to
Bobby Petrino
Posted by atlanta917
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2017
6053 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 7:33 pm to
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Not buying Smart with one good season

lol he’s averaging a natty appearance once every 3 years.
This post was edited on 9/13/22 at 7:38 pm
Posted by Partha
Member since Jan 2022
7303 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 7:48 pm to
Kirby is an elite coach, but until he gets 2 natties, I have to give Dabo the second place, and put Kirby at 3rd.

That said, in 2022 I'd rather have Kirby as a coach than Dabo.
Posted by csorre1
Member since Apr 2010
6839 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 7:50 pm to
The better question is who is number 4.

1. Saban
2. Dabo
3. Smart
4. ?
Posted by ScoggDog
SE Indiana
Member since Aug 2020
3732 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 7:54 pm to
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Saban is obvious, but I'd put Dabo second for starting with comparatively nothing and making it to a shitload of playoffs and winning it all twice.


I would not. Because I'm watching Dabo - he's going the Bobby Knight route. Give it a couple more seasons, at most. Dabo has reached the end of his rope.

Saban - Smart - Ryan Day. I'd like to see Luke Fickell get a turn at a Power Five school, see what happens.
Posted by Partha
Member since Jan 2022
7303 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 7:58 pm to
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The better question is who is number 4.

1. Saban
2. Dabo
3. Smart
4. ?


This is a great point.

It's hard to say since any active NC winning HC's besides them are past their prime (Mack Brown and Chizik are both at UNC doing okay, but definitely not the best right now).

Arguments can go for Ryan Day, Lincoln Riley, or maybe even a Brian Kelly/Harbaugh type of coach, thought those two would be harder to make a case for.
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
15598 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 7:59 pm to
Dabo's preacher gimmick would wear thin in the SEC but the Newspring Church cult eats that shite up.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
38304 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 7:59 pm to
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Kirby is an elite coach, but until he gets 2 natties, I have to give Dabo the second place, and put Kirby at 3rd. That said, in 2022 I'd rather have Kirby as a coach than Dabo.


You need to make up your mind. Active IS 2022.
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
7341 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 8:04 pm to
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I'd still rank Dabo ahead of Kirby. Dabo is just in the middle of a quarterback shite pickle right now, but he'll figure it out. Clemson won't be down for long imo.


I'd rank Kirby ahead of Dabo because Dabo is dependent on QB play and when he (as you put it) is in a shite pickle, the team isn't that great.

Kirby has built a team that plays damn impressively with QB's who aren't future NFL stars. That shows that a coach has built a program rather than has ridden a great QB or two to success.

Give a coach a Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawrence, Jameis Winston, Cam Newton or Deshaun Watson and many coaches can win a title. Winning without a QB like that... you've probably built a pretty impressive program.
Posted by Partha
Member since Jan 2022
7303 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 8:07 pm to
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You need to make up your mind. Active IS 2022.



I think Kirby has a brighter future than Dabo moving forward.

Based on present accomplishments in 2022, Dabo has an edge with more natty wins.

In theory, I believe Kirby will eclipse Dabo, probably sometime soon.

But we'll have to see how it plays out.
Posted by BigPaintedInOrange
Member since Aug 2022
1247 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 8:11 pm to
He hasn't done shite to even be talked about as possible third best coach in the nation. Arky fans are so effin delusional it's hillarious.
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
7341 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 8:12 pm to
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If you’re ok with going to the SEC Championship game every year in a weak division and losing the conference championship game by a average of 17 points in your own state, losing a national title on a 2nd and 26 and winning one national title in a rematch game against a freshman QB with no wide receivers you take Kirby Smart.


In real english: "If you're okay with a coach building a program that wins a national title against Bama without an elite qb when Bama has a heisman winner at QB... you go with Smart."

The reality is Smart managed to build a program that won a national title without a future NFL Qb. Orgeron, Dabo, Fisher, Brown... all the other non-Saban active coaches with a national title rode a NFL QB to that title.

Smart didn't. He built the rest of the team to elite level. The last guy to do that was Saban... but he hasn't been in that business recently. He also is relying on elite QB's now.

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