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re: Who's the 3rd best active coach in college football?

Posted on 9/13/22 at 8:13 pm to
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13343 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 8:13 pm to
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It was much more than peak saban.


Well sure, but it sure made some great coaches look pedestrian in comparison.

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Facts don’t lead to bad karma.


Facts are that Richt averaged 9.73 wins versus 3.4 losses per year, for 15 years. If you get as good for as long with Smart, you’ll be doing pretty damn well. Fact is, coaches like Richt build the culture and pave the way for coaches like Smart. Take it from someone that has never seen a coach like that in 52 years of fandom.
Posted by SaturdayNAthens
Georgia
Member since Dec 2017
10881 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 8:15 pm to
LSU fans are still reeling from their fall from relevancy. Striking out at their betters is all they have left.
Posted by SaturdayNAthens
Georgia
Member since Dec 2017
10881 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 8:18 pm to
Georgia has been blessed with great coaches and Ark got one of our best. The Pitboss will do good things for the Hogs
Posted by Cooterlane
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2022
1409 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 8:19 pm to
Well you know Bama wont win the Natty in 2022.
Saban has won 7 national titles.
Saban has won zero national titles with a black QB.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32860 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 9:32 pm to
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If you get as good for as long with Smart, you’ll be doing pretty damn well


Uga finished top 25 in both polls 5 times from 2006-2015. Richt lost to vandy in 2006. Last year was Kirby’s 2006.
Posted by FreezeTag
Member since Aug 2019
19 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 9:45 pm to
Definitely not Riley. Look at his progression at OU when he was handed the keys to a strong, Bob Stoops program:
Y1: Played competitive playoff game vs GA
Y2: Blown out in playoff game vs LSU
Y3: Win conference, didn't make playoff
Y4: Didn't win conference
End: Bailed in the middle of the night because scared of move to SEC

I wouldn't put Riley in the top 25 coaches
Posted by Tigerfn4vr
Member since Feb 2021
31 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 10:23 pm to
Why is Kelly harder to make a case for?
1. Saban
2. Dabo/Smart
3. Kelly/Pittman/Day
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13343 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 10:42 pm to
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Uga finished top 25 in both polls 5 times from 2006-2015. Richt lost to vandy in 2006. Last year was Kirby’s 2006.


I’m not saying Smart isn’t a great coach. I’m saying Richt won at a 74% rate over 15 years. Smart is at an 82% win rate over 6 years. Kirby obviously has the stuff to win at the highest levels, but he’ll have to continue that for another decade without much of a drop off for the next decade to stay ahead of Richt’s win percentage. Smart will always have the championships over Richt, but if you’re honest, you recognize it’s happening during Sagan’s decline, not in his heyday.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37495 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 11:22 pm to
Lance leipold

HC- Kansas
Posted by bengalmd
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2021
4496 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 11:25 pm to
Smart is a great recruiter but I would not put him in top 10 of game management coaches.
Posted by r2d2
Member since Dec 2006
6842 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 11:26 pm to
Jimbo
Posted by playmakers in space
Member since Sep 2018
1256 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 5:54 am to
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Not buying Smart with one good season


He has a national title and a conference title (national runner-up) in separate seasons. This board has the shittiest takes when it comes to Kirby Smart.
Posted by playmakers in space
Member since Sep 2018
1256 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 5:59 am to
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Fact is, coaches like Richt build the culture and pave the way for coaches like Smart.


This is a dumb take from someone who doesn't know what he's talking about. Our program was a mess and spinning its wheels in Richt's last few seasons. His last season was the emptiest 10 win season of all time. We finished unranked and Georgia Southern took us to overtime that year. We also were consistently finishing towards the middle of the pack in the SEC in recruiting. Smart came in and overhauled that completely.
Posted by BigMob
Georgia
Member since Oct 2021
7625 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 6:01 am to
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Not buying Smart with one good season


Apart from his first year, UGA has finished 2, 7, 4, 7, 1, nationally. There’s no fathomable way you can say these aren’t - at the minimum - “good” seasons. Over 98% of CFB fan bases would kill to have this success.
Posted by turnpiketiger
Southeast Texas
Member since May 2020
9446 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 6:18 am to
It’s clearly Dabo. He’s got multiple national titles, multiple conference titles, multiple title game appearances. I don’t even know why people would debate this. It’s common knowledge.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
30102 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 6:33 am to
Matt Campbell
Posted by lofty
Member since Dec 2019
404 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 6:38 am to
Until kirby wins another it's 1.saban, 2.dabo and smart has a great argument for 3.
I say this as a lifelong uga fan.
Posted by madmaxvol
Infinity + 1 Posts
Member since Oct 2011
19133 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 6:40 am to
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Not buying Smart with one good season




Georgia's worst seasons in the last 5 were: 8-2 in an all SEC schedule in 2020, and 11-3 in 2018. I sure could go for some bad seasons like that...
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 6:44 am to
It's Jimbo.

He's just at the wrong school....no, wait....Jamis Winston....no wait....NO FEMALE CHEERLEADERS!!!!

Posted by Dirk Dawgler
Where I Am
Member since Nov 2011
2481 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 6:44 am to
Dabo is equivalent to Jimbo or Gus. Average coach who had generational QBs for their respective programs. Except Dabo had two. When he can win a championship with a Greg McElroy, Stetson Bennett type QB at the helm, I will put him on par with Saban and Smart.
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