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re: Who’ll lead the SEC in passing yards?
Posted on 5/26/20 at 11:19 am to SummerOfGeorge
Posted on 5/26/20 at 11:19 am to SummerOfGeorge
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If we are talking just total yardage yea, it's going to be whoever plays QB at Mississippi State until Leach is gone. Every season.
And if it isn’t Miss St, Leach won’t last very long with as many times he likes to throw...
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Posted on 5/26/20 at 11:20 am to SummerOfGeorge
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Yea, it's basically equivalent to asking who will lead the nation in rush yards?
Yeah maybe starting next season that’ll be the case, but our receivers are shite until they prove otherwise. In order to throw 50+ times a game you actually have to move the chains.
Posted on 5/26/20 at 11:22 am to kajunman
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Not against the SEC heavyweights. Corners in the SEC are superior. It matters.
It might not be super-efficient, but they'll throw 55 times a game for 285 yards or something even on their bad days.
It's just that their total yardage will be 293 or something and their Yards Per Play will be like 4.2 and they'll have 8 3 and outs. It will not necessarily be a "good" 290 yards.
This post was edited on 5/26/20 at 11:23 am
Posted on 5/26/20 at 11:23 am to kajunman
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Not against the SEC heavyweights. Corners in the SEC are superior. It matters.
Not when it comes to purely putting up yards and they are not going to be playing SEC heavyweights every week. Their style might not win but they are going to put up a huge amount of passing yards when the season is over.
Hell, even when they play the better teams and are getting blown out. They are going to throw for plenty of yards in the 4th against the 2nd string.
Posted on 5/26/20 at 11:26 am to SummerOfGeorge
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It might not be super-efficient, but they'll throw 55 times a game for 285 yards or something even on their bad days.
If Mac starts the whole season, I think he throws for more than Costello. JMO.
Posted on 5/26/20 at 11:26 am to rockiee
It will not be Gitmo
Posted on 5/26/20 at 11:29 am to kajunman
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If Mac starts the whole season, I think he throws for more than Costello. JMO.
Leach's QBs at WSU averaged fewer than 360 ypg one time the entire time he was there. That was his first season when they averaged "only" 330 ypg. To clarify, I'm talking about team passing ypg. In his first season at WSU, he had a two QB system, so neither averaged a ton of yards per game individually.
This post was edited on 5/26/20 at 11:33 am
Posted on 5/26/20 at 11:30 am to boot
JRP for sure. He put up a blistering 910 yards passing last year under offensive juggernaut Matt Luke 
In reality no idea who wins the job this year. Kiffin will get the most out of JRP and Corral
In reality no idea who wins the job this year. Kiffin will get the most out of JRP and Corral
Posted on 5/26/20 at 11:31 am to lsufball19
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Washington St was a whole more devoid of talent when he got there than State will be this year.
And this is why the whole SEC defense argument is not as relevant.
Is Leach going to see more difficult defenses than his time in the PAC 12? Yes but he also should have more talent to work with while at MSU.
Posted on 5/26/20 at 11:33 am to lsufball19
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That was his first season when they averaged "only" 330 ypg.
First season in the SEC. New qb. No spring ball.
Posted on 5/26/20 at 11:35 am to rockiee
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And this is why the whole SEC defense argument is not as relevant.
Is Leach going to see more difficult defenses than his time in the PAC 12? Yes but he also should have more talent to work with while at MSU.
I think a lot of people don't know exactly what an air raid offense is either. You don't need a great OL to chunk the ball around 50+ times a game and not get sacked. The entire point of that offense is to get rid of the ball immediately. They will use WR screens in bunch formation, RB flats, etc as "running plays." They'll run hurry up the entire game. They'll be in the shotgun the entire game. SOG said it very well. They may be inefficient and may not score a whole lot, but when you run the ball 10 times and throw it 55-60, you'll rack up some passing yards. They'll be "empty" stats but they'll very likely lead the SEC in passing yards per game.
This post was edited on 5/26/20 at 11:38 am
Posted on 5/26/20 at 11:36 am to kajunman
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First season in the SEC.
meh, it's the SEC's first season playing Mike Leach too
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New qb.
there are about 10 or 11 new starters in the SEC this year
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No spring ball
one one else had spring ball either
Posted on 5/26/20 at 11:38 am to thunderbird1100
Alabama fans. Alabama is NEVER going back to a run oriented, ball control offense. Those days are gone and they should be - if they want to stay relevant with elite wide receivers and QB prospects.
Posted on 5/26/20 at 11:38 am to SummerOfGeorge
This post reminded me of WVU’s passing stats vs LSU in 2011 where they threw 75% of the time and still lost to us 47-21.
38/65
463 yds
7.1 avg/pass
2 TD
2 INT
73.4 QBR
But a big difference, of course, is that Miss St doesn’t have Geno Smith...
38/65
463 yds
7.1 avg/pass
2 TD
2 INT
73.4 QBR
But a big difference, of course, is that Miss St doesn’t have Geno Smith...
Posted on 5/26/20 at 11:39 am to lsufball19
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I think a lot of people don't know exactly what an air raid offense is either.
100%, some think they are getting 5 WRs to run streaks. That would be a huge issue with a weak Oline.
On some of the designed passes, there could literally be zero Olinemen on the field and the pass will still get to the receiver.
Posted on 5/26/20 at 12:03 pm to olemissfan26
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In reality no idea who wins the job this year. Kiffin will get the most out of JRP and Corral
I think Tisdale has a good shot at winning that job
Posted on 5/26/20 at 12:07 pm to kajunman
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MSU doesn't have the weapons Bama has or LSU for that matter. I think Costello will get broken if he passes 50 times a game. You give up something to get something. Burrow was great avoiding pressure and he still got hit, a lot. Add 15-18 more passes per game and Costello's season could end early.
Leach's offense is get the ball out quickly, in the end Bama/LSU just dont throw it near enough to offset an extra maybe 15 passes a game Costello is throwing. If we're talking total yards, only hope is MSU only plays 12 games and LSU/Bama go 14-15 games in to makeup the raw difference through higher yards per attempt and more games simply, but again, total yards is rather pointless to compare if 1 person played 15 games and another 12, it should ypg at that point.
Wazzu didnt have weapons like the rest of the PAC-12 either, didnt stop Leach from throwing it over 50 times a game many seasons there. It's just his offense. RBs mostly irrelevant.
This post was edited on 5/26/20 at 12:09 pm
Posted on 5/26/20 at 12:12 pm to kajunman
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First season in the SEC. New qb. No spring ball.
I don't think you understand Leach's offense, he's going to throw the ball, and throw it regardless of the outcome, with the 1st, 2nd or 3rd string QB.
He threw the ball 77% of the time last season (in a 7 loss season), seventy-seven percent. HE doesnt care about the result, it's just his offense.
This post was edited on 5/26/20 at 12:13 pm
Posted on 5/26/20 at 1:20 pm to rockiee
and the best QB that has ever played under him
Posted on 5/26/20 at 1:54 pm to boot
Myles Brennan from LSU
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