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re: Who wins the SC v. UGA game and why?

Posted on 9/5/13 at 12:40 pm to
Posted by Bamaal
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2012
316 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 12:40 pm to
I'm going with Spurrier on this one...Georgia will be the best 0-2 team in the country though.
Posted by cecolacock
Columbia, SC
Member since Nov 2012
19 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 12:43 pm to
Are they even playing? I thought the season was over after the national championship game in Clemson this past Saturday.
Posted by RoyalAir
Detroit
Member since Dec 2012
5893 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 12:43 pm to
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Why does you heart say that? He has a great career record, and can you really put last year's Florida loss on him? Honestly, that is the only game that is unforgivable. LSU dominated you guys in Death Valley last year, but they were coming off a close loss on the road versus Florida while South Carolina was coming down from an emotional high versus Georgia.


First of all, LSU didn't dominate. That score was 23-21. It was a back-and-forth nail biter.

Shaw threw two picks in that game. His early fumble against UF set the tone for that game and opened up the flood gates. He didn't play particularly well against an average defense at Fayettenam in 2011. To this point, his signature wins on the road are in 2011 against an average MSU bunch and a dogshit UTK team missing its starting QB.

Shaw is damn near unbeatable at home. But he doesn't even have the signature win on the road that Thompson has. Quite frankly, he's been downright bad on the road. Maybe he shines through, plays well, and rings UGA's bell. But my heart tells me we're starting the wrong QB.
Posted by atlgamecockman
Washington, DC
Member since Dec 2012
3822 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 12:49 pm to
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But my heart tells me we're starting the wrong QB.


He gives us the run game element that we don't get with Thompson. Thompson can run, but he's no Shaw.
Posted by Mr.Sinister
South Carolina
Member since Dec 2012
4956 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 12:51 pm to
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But my heart tells me we're starting the wrong QB.


We are starting the leader of our offense.


Now if he isn't up to par with HBC's expectations... We will see the deep ball from DT.

The game has me nervous, but in all reality every game makes me nervous.. I have been a Gamecock for a looong time.
Posted by atlgamecockman
Washington, DC
Member since Dec 2012
3822 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 12:52 pm to
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but in all reality every game makes me nervous.. I have been a Gamecock for a looong time.


Truest frickin thing in this whole thread. I am never not nervous.
Posted by CockyInNola24
Member since May 2011
1402 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 12:55 pm to
USC

Because Stone Cold said so!
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86538 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 12:56 pm to
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Big plays happen, but aren't always a great indicator of success


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big plays don't always reflect how things really went


In that case, bama is going to suck hard this year since they had so many big plays for TDs against a severely overmatched VT team.

Bama=4 loss team this year.
Posted by atlgamecockman
Washington, DC
Member since Dec 2012
3822 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 12:58 pm to
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Big plays happen, but aren't always a great indicator of success


quote:
big plays don't always reflect how things really went


In that case, bama is going to suck hard this year since they had so many big plays for TDs against a severely overmatched VT team.

Bama=4 loss team this year.



It's aight man we know we won't see any big plays from Erin on sat.
Posted by JimMorrison
The Peninsula
Member since May 2012
20747 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 12:59 pm to
We're going to win in the trenches on both sides of the ball and because of this we'll be able to limit Gurley.

I'm thinking Murray is also good for his usual two turnovers from constantly being pressured.


38-17 Gamecocks
Posted by RoyalAir
Detroit
Member since Dec 2012
5893 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 12:59 pm to
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The game has me nervous, but in all reality every game makes me nervous.. I have been a Gamecock for a looong time.



MFing this.
Posted by MenloDawg
Member since Jan 2010
6719 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 12:59 pm to
2010--Lots of zone read w/ Lattimore that gashed us

2011--Came out w/ plenty of zone read w/ Lattimore and gashed us, but the D played well enough to win the game. Murray and special teams killed us.

2012--Grantham was geared up to stop Lattimore and Spurrier beautifully used him as a decoy to gash our D (who overpursued all game long)with PA passes and QB runs. We paid dearly for focusing so heavily on Lattimore.

2013:

No Lattimore, so I see us playing this game much more straight up and less with our eyes in the backfield.

Benefit? Shaw hurts us less with his legs and the PA doesn't burn our safeties.

Drawback? The SC OL greatly outweighs our DL this year, so our unproven DL will have to win some 1 on 1 battles for this strategy to be effective.

Counter? Spurrier brings in Thompson for much more action than against UNC (obviously)

Benefit? Our young DBs are apt to get exposed, see Clemson.

Drawback? Our young DBs actually before better against Clemson than I anticipated as Langley and Matthews performed well on the road against the pass. Connor Norman killed us, but he immediately goes to 3rd on the depth chart this week as we get two safeties back, including the much hyped JHC. SC has nobody even close to Sammy Watkins level.

Counter: Your TEs are much more effective than the TEs Clemson trotted out there, so our young DBs can't merely worry about who is split wide.

It'll be a chess match all game long between Grantham and Spurrier. I actually hope Spurrier abandons the run somewhat, especially early.

On the other side of the ball, the important matchup is no secret. If our OL plays as physical as it did against Bama and UF last year, then our offense will score its fair share. If we play like we did @ Clemson and @ SC last year, then we're going to need a ridiculously strong performance on D.

I honestly don't know what to expect from the OL. It's the same OL that has been quite physical and the same one that has struggled. Same guys. Out of the 5 games above (including the current 2013 SC game), this is the only one in which we will play at home. Bama and UF were neutral, while Clemson and SC were on the road.

That gives me some hope. The last BIG game of the last 3 years that we had at Sanford was against Carolina in 2011 and we dropped 42.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86538 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 1:01 pm to
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because of this we'll be able to limit Gurley


Just for curiosity's sake, what do you consider "limiting" gurley? 30 yards, 50, 80?
Posted by atlgamecockman
Washington, DC
Member since Dec 2012
3822 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 1:01 pm to
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we dropped 42.


and gave up 38 I believe
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140657 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 1:02 pm to
Go Cocks!
Posted by atlgamecockman
Washington, DC
Member since Dec 2012
3822 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 1:02 pm to
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"limiting" gurley? 30 yards, 50, 80?


I would say under 100 would be successful. under 80 would be marvelous.
Posted by MenloDawg
Member since Jan 2010
6719 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 1:03 pm to
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and gave up 38 I believe


45-42 y'all won. One pick 6, one fake punt for a TD and then Murray fumbled once inside the 10 (if I'm not mistaken) and you scored off that. 21 non-defensive points allowed. Mistakes, mistakes, mistakes.
Posted by K9
wayx....BOBO IN '19
Member since Sep 2012
24056 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 1:05 pm to
Any Cocks interested in a month long ban bet?
Posted by Carolina101
Lexington South Carolina
Member since Jul 2009
1154 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 1:06 pm to
I would be pleased and consider Gurley limited if we held him to 80 yards I would be happy with that.
Posted by atlgamecockman
Washington, DC
Member since Dec 2012
3822 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 1:07 pm to
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Any Cocks interested in a month long ban bet?



I will bite. I am in Paris so it won't be much of a big deal ha. Ban on the Rant only or on USC forum too?
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