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re: Who was/is feared most? Kirby going to Georgia or Lane going to LSU.
Posted on 8/19/26 at 8:57 am to jchamil
Posted on 8/19/26 at 8:57 am to jchamil
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It’s 100% because of the drama that’s always surrounded Kiffin everywhere he’s been.
That's probably true and fair but it ignores or overlooks that fact that Lane has lived an unconventional life as a head coach
Raiders - probably got his first head job (and it was the pros to boot) way too early (he was 32) and it was at a franchise in the last stages of the Al Davis ownership era where he was blowing draft picks and changing coaches every few years, pure chaos for a 32 year old in his first head coaching job. Made sense it didn't work out.
Tennessee - parachutes to Tennessee after they unexpectedly fire Fulmer after the 2008 season, they do pretty well Year 1, set a solid foundation then Pete Carroll announces he's leaving USC for the Seahawks...
USC - this is where the first instances of hate are directed at Lane - him abruptly leaving Tennessee for the USC head job when they pursued and offered him after Pete abruptly leaves for the NFL. In a vacuum, people would accept this hate as totally justified, I know Tennessee fans do, but it ignores the context of Lane Kiffin. He's from Cali, played at Fresno State, and cut his teeth at USC under Chow and Carroll, that's where he learned his coaching craft and honed his signature offensive scheme. Also remember, at that time, the USC head job was as high demand a head job as the LSU, Alabama, Georgia, Oregon, Texas jobs are today so we can't really blame him especially since USC wanted him. Things started out well then the team imploded in that all-important Year 3 for coaches. After starting 2013 3-2, he gets infamously fired on the tarmac.
Bama - goes to the Nick Saban Coaching Rehabilitation Clinic from 2014-16, modernizes Saban's offense, makes people like Blake Sims and Jake Coker prolific college passers, helps Jalen Hurts become a top freshman QB in the country, then the head coach offers return to him. LSU reportedly wanted him to be the OC for Orgeron (I think they wanted him to be LSU head coach before O, IDK) but Saban and Co blocked it and instead steered him to FAU. Whatever happened that prevented him from coaching the 2017 natty game happened but he was off to FAU.
FAU - we all know what happened here, 2 10-win seasons, prolific and elite offenses, gives CWJ his first true coordinator opportunity then the P5 head coach offers return to him
Ole Miss - he further refines and elevates his system at the next level, adapts better than anyone to the new NIL/portal landscape, also makes significant changes in his personal life in terms of yoga, giving up drinking, family, etc.
Then 2025 happens where 2 P4 top SEC power jobs come open and Lane being who he is obviously gets pursued...
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Posted on 8/19/26 at 9:49 am to Globetrotter747
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Get rid of the person most responsible for the shakeup
The shakeup was brought on by the business of college athletics
The LSU and Florida jobs came open, notwithstanding Penn State and Auburn also opening up - all during the regular season
Lane made himself a top commodity per his Ole Miss performance, Ole Miss brass deluded themselves that there's no way Lane would leave a playoff team for those schools so they dragged their feet on a possible coaching search instead of using that leverage to force Lane's hand to commit
When the smoke cleared, Lane left for LSU with his offensive staff and Ole Miss rushed Pete to the podium and probably cost themselves the title by barring Lane from the sidelines during that run
Exacerbating all this is the portal window and early signing period calendar
This post was edited on 8/19/26 at 9:50 am
Posted on 8/19/26 at 10:37 am to Fisherchefjeff
I honestly think Lane can build something special at LSU and that scares me as an Auburn fan.
Posted on 8/19/26 at 12:56 pm to Gen Patton
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The shakeup was brought on by the business of college athletics
I don’t disagree at all.
What I’m saying is that somebody had to coach the offense at Ole Miss even if they wanted all the LSU guys gone. Maybe they thought Kiffin was expendable in the playoff run - but the entire offensive staff couldn’t be jettisoned.
It’s kinda like Gus Fring wanting to kill Walter White during the infamous box cutter scene. He may have wanted to, but it would have hurt his business too much to do it. So he kept him alive even though he didn’t want to.
I don’t know how pissed the Ole Miss PTB were about the LSU situation, but they couldn’t just go scorched earth and not have an offensive coaching staff even if they wanted to.
Posted on 8/19/26 at 1:11 pm to Globetrotter747
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Maybe they thought Kiffin was expendable in the playoff run - but the entire offensive staff couldn’t be jettisoned.
I definitely read all you're saying and conclude it's understandable in light of the circumstances the calendar and business brought on
This thinking on their part doesn't make any sense though since they invested so much for him to coach and assemble the team and offered him that extension to stay, so much so they didn't even conduct a coaching search when he remained noncommital as jobs came open and thus rushed Pete to the podium Coach O style
He's the architect of that offense and team, even though he became the LSU head coach before the playoff, so while I agree with what you're saying and the Breaking Bad analogy, to deem the architect and head of that entire staff and offense expendable for the playoff makes zero sense.
It just further illustrates that Ole Miss threw a hissy fit over it all but didn't want to throw the baby out with the bathwater for practical purposes so pushed Lane out, LSU and Lane let the staff keep coaching through their playoff run and paid their bonuses, then they go to LSU once the season ends.
Posted on 8/19/26 at 2:52 pm to Fisherchefjeff
I wish we selected Lane Kiffin before our current coach, Lane Kiffin is a good college football coach
Posted on 8/19/26 at 2:52 pm to vholley50
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That is particularly interesting because LSU fans start 95% of the Lane what ever threads
I feel like some of you have just brainwashed yourselves for no reason.
Posted on 8/19/26 at 2:57 pm to Fisherchefjeff
Well noone fears Lane and LSU, will be exactly like his failures at USC and Tenn.
Kirby was not feared because noone had any clue if he was a good head coach or bad head coach. Turns out he is elite.
Kirby was not feared because noone had any clue if he was a good head coach or bad head coach. Turns out he is elite.
Posted on 8/19/26 at 2:59 pm to Gatorbait2008
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Well noone fears Lane and LSU, will be exactly like his failures at USC and Tenn.
Why do you think he failed at Tennessee?
Posted on 8/19/26 at 3:57 pm to Violent Hip Swivel
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I'd say only about 10 percent of Georgia fans were like "frick yeah, we got Kirby Smart!" when Kirby was hired. I definitely was in the 90 percent. I can admit it.
You’re a fricking idiot. Those numbers are flipped. Most fans wanted Kirby
Posted on 8/19/26 at 5:06 pm to Gen Patton
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He's the architect of that offense and team, even though he became the LSU head coach before the playoff, so while I agree with what you're saying and the Breaking Bad analogy, to deem the architect and head of that entire staff and offense expendable for the playoff makes zero sense.
I agree.
The poster I responded to asked why Kiffin was not allowed to coach but the offensive staff (also going to LSU) could. The answer is that no matter how pissed the Ole Miss brass might have been, somebody had to be around to coach the offense.
Irrational behavior has levels to it.
Posted on 8/19/26 at 5:57 pm to Fisherchefjeff
I worry about Lane at LSU, Kirby at Georgia we can deal with
Posted on 8/19/26 at 6:04 pm to cabby836
I agree, lane can build something at LSU that will cause problems at all SEC schools, I know Alabama will not want him on out schedule
Posted on 8/19/26 at 9:41 pm to Fisherchefjeff
Lane will have zero natties at lsu and go back to the nfl.
We are yet to know how many natties Kirby will have at Georgia before he hangs it up and retires to Oconee.
We are yet to know how many natties Kirby will have at Georgia before he hangs it up and retires to Oconee.
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