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Who is the better Coach? OBC or Saban. UT school of journalism article

Posted on 2/18/16 at 12:41 pm
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 2/18/16 at 12:41 pm
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This is a fairly short debate from the UT School of Journalism students.

Here are a couple of exerps:

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King: Nick Saban has become the definition of success in the sport of college football. Compared to Spurrier, I believe Saban is the obvious choice in a debate of who is the better coach


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Nichols: what truly makes the "Head Ball Coach" better is his ability to transform any and every team he coached into a winning program. His offensive brilliance turned a formerly-mediocre team like South Carolina into a contender, while Saban has only been able to build on the more-than-solid foundations laid by Bear Bryant and Gene Stallings at Alabama.

Posted by elit4ce05
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 2/18/16 at 12:43 pm to
Saban...not even close.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 2/18/16 at 12:44 pm to
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UT School of Journalism students.


This the same school that handed Finebaum a degree? ?
Posted by Master of Sinanju
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 2/18/16 at 12:44 pm to
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His offensive brilliance turned a formerly-mediocre team like South Carolina into a contender

... and back.
Posted by hambone213
Member since Oct 2012
442 posts
Posted on 2/18/16 at 12:45 pm to
Definitely Saban. He isn't done coaching yet. Likely he wins at least one more title.
Posted by Ol'DirtyCam
Madtown
Member since Jul 2013
1167 posts
Posted on 2/18/16 at 12:47 pm to
Total nonsense to think Spurrier was better at this point. The Fun n Gun didn't really do jack shite at South Carolina. He had some really nasty defenses up there that made those teams good IMO. Football passed him by long ago. And this upcoming from someone who loves the OBC. He was great for the conference and the sport. He will be missed as a great coach and personality. Hopefully he finds a good TV gig.
Posted by GameCocky88
Mount Pleasant, SC
Member since Dec 2015
4837 posts
Posted on 2/18/16 at 12:47 pm to
This is retarded. The argument is ridiculous. It's obviously Saban. Saying that Saban has only been able to win championships at Bama is like saying Wilt Chamberlain only slept with a lot of sloots. Also, no mention of Saban's pre bama success? Do better
Posted by Bill Parker?
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 2/18/16 at 12:48 pm to
Corn won't grow at all on rocky top....
Posted by CockInYourEar
Charlotte
Member since Sep 2012
22458 posts
Posted on 2/18/16 at 12:51 pm to
Probably Spurrier. Saban is to chicken shite to even try to attempt what Spurrier did. Saban needs a school to have past history to be currently successful.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 2/18/16 at 12:51 pm to
This is an important topic.



I really don't understand the point of this thread. You're posting about a debate that was like a part of a class assignment.

Jesus Christ
Posted by Master of Sinanju
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 2/18/16 at 12:54 pm to
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I really don't understand the point of this thread. You're posting about a debate that was like a part of a class assignment. 


To be fair, this is the offseason. Would you have preferred yet another rape thread?
Posted by Ol'DirtyCam
Madtown
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 2/18/16 at 12:58 pm to
I can't believe more than just a couple outliers actually think Spurrier is better. Y'all are effing nuts. There is no one better than Saban at building a program. He got Michigan St playing good football (similar to spurrier at Duke). He turned LSU into a monster (similar to Spurrier at Florida). Both failed as NFL coaches. His last choice was vastly different. He returned Alabama to dominance in one of (arguably) the greatest coaching runs in coaching history. Spurrier's heights at South Carolins include 0 SEC or national titles. I think it is close to lunacy to analyze these two and conclude that Spurrier was a better coach. Probably a top 5 or top 10 all time coach but he is not better than Nick Saban.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
24937 posts
Posted on 2/18/16 at 12:58 pm to
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I really don't understand the point of this thread



I just want to say that I am shocked, I mean SHOCKED that there is a thread that you don't understand.

Yes, I'm questioning your intelligence if you can't figure this post out.




Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
Atlanta GA - ITP
Member since Sep 2012
24933 posts
Posted on 2/18/16 at 1:00 pm to
If you consider building programs a better indicator of coaching ability then you should pick Spurrier over Saban.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
64945 posts
Posted on 2/18/16 at 1:05 pm to
Spurrier's entire legacy hinges on what he did at Florida in the 90s. While impressive, the SEC of the 1990s is not the SEC of the 2010s. Many programs within the conference had fallen on hard times. LSU was a disaster, Auburn was mediocre for much of the decade, and the same can be said for Georgia. The only consistently good teams in the conference during this time were Florida, Tennessee, and Alabama. Funnily enough, these were the only schools to win conference championships in football during that decade.

While Florida thrived in a weak Southeastern Conference, they consistently struggled against Florida State. Spurrier left the Gators with a losing record to Bobby Bowden's program. There were years in the 90s where Florida would be tops in the conference but would also be the third best team in the state of Florida (behind FSU and Miami).

Spurrier will always be considered a legend in the sport, but for all of his greatness, he only managed to win one national championship. And that championship was given to him as a mulligan to boot.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 2/18/16 at 1:05 pm to
"Dating back to the 2000 season at Florida, Spurrier is 3-1 against Nick Saban’s teams. Florida crushed LSU in the 2000 and 2001 seasons, 41-9 and 44-15 respectively."

This post was edited on 2/18/16 at 1:06 pm
Posted by Ol'DirtyCam
Madtown
Member since Jul 2013
1167 posts
Posted on 2/18/16 at 1:08 pm to
I do consider program building a major factor in coaching comparisons. I just think people are selling Saban way short on this point. Spurrier took tough jobs and should be commended for it. But that does not make him a better coach. It just doesn't.
Posted by AlabamaAlum07
Member since Jun 2014
2027 posts
Posted on 2/18/16 at 1:09 pm to
Saban never lost to Mike Dubose twice in the same year.
Posted by AlabamaAlum07
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 2/18/16 at 1:13 pm to
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And that championship was given to him as a mulligan to boot.

Uh oh, you've done it now.
Posted by Grievous Angel
Tuscaloosa, AL
Member since Dec 2008
9668 posts
Posted on 2/18/16 at 1:21 pm to
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Saban needs a school to have past history to be currently successful.


LSU wasn't exactly glittering with trophies when he arrived there.
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