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Lonnie Utah
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re: Who do you think was one of the best football players Not to win the Heisman?
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I Hate Tennessee but Peyton Manning was robbed.



He's done OK shilling for Nationwide...


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skrayper
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re: Who do you think was one of the best football players Not to win the Heisman?
I wouldn't say Derrick Thomas was robbed because of who won it that year, but he's still the best pressure LB ever in college football.


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MrAUTigers
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re: Who do you think was one of the best football players Not to win the Heisman?
I never saw him play, but Dad always talked about how Johnny Majors got screwed when Hornung won it on a ND team that went 2-8.


Fred439
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re: Who do you think was one of the best football players Not to win the Heisman?
Jerry Stovall. He just played too soon after Cannon.


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Ghost of Barnwell
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re: Who do you think was one of the best football players Not to win the Heisman?
gordie lockbaum was screwed......


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CapstoneGrad06
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re: Who do you think was one of the best football players Not to win the Heisman?
Joe Namath and Ken Stabler

It’s still amazing that Bryant didn’t have a heisman winner at Alabama. But politics played a major role in that playing out.


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Gatorbait2008
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re: Who do you think was one of the best football players Not to win the Heisman?
Rex Grossman was robbed


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Dwight Schrute Reb
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re: Who do you think was one of the best football players Not to win the Heisman?
Archie Manning in 1970. Any objective college football fan will agree.

Peyton Manning in 1997. ESPN absolutely showed how powerful the press is.

I can't believe Joe Namath didn't win it.


Pig Lebowski
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re: Who do you think was one of the best football players Not to win the Heisman?
Troy Smith (Ohio State) in 2006.
Reason stated a sophomore won't win the Heisman.

2007 rolls around and SOPHOMORE Tim Tebow is handed the trophy. bS.



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skrayper
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re: Who do you think was one of the best football players Not to win the Heisman?
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I never saw him play, but Dad always talked about how Johnny Majors got screwed when Hornung won it on a ND team that went 2-8.


It wouldn't surprise me if ND is responsible for a lot of Heisman trophies going to less deserving folks.

Notre Dame Heisman winners:
1943 - Angelo Bartelli
1947 - Johnny Lujack
1949 - Leon Hart
1953 - Johnny Lattner
1956 - Paul Hornung
1964 - John Huarte
1987 - Tim Brown


Finding stats on all players from some of those older ones are rough, but ND would routinely have 3 players in the voting (usually a #3 or #4, then taking up the final slot as well at #9/#10).

1953 - One could definitely make the argument for Paul Giel, who finished as the UPI PotY, AP Back of the Year, and ended up in the CFB HoF

1956 - Jim Brown (Syracuse) and Tommy McDonald (Oklahoma) all had significantly better numbers than both Horung and Majors. Majors finished second in voting, with a statline of 108 Att, 549 Yds, 5.1 Avg, 7 TD, but McDonald had 119 Att, 853 Yds, 7.2 Avg, 12 TD. Jim Brown finished 5th in voting with 158 Att, 986 Yds, 6.2 Avg, 13 TD.

1964 - Jerry Rhome definitely got shafted. John Huarte finished with 114 Cmp, 205 Att, 2062 Yds, 16 TD, 11 In, but Rhome (Tulsa) came in second with 224 Cmp, 326 Att, 2870 Yds, 32 TD, 4 Int. It's crazy when you see that Notre Dame End Jack Snow finished 5th with 60 Rec, 1114 Yds, 18.6 Avg, 9 TD - basically accounting for over half of Huarte's completions, yards and TDs.

Tim Brown was definitely deserving. Lots of great players the year he won, but I don't think he "robbed" anyone.



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higgs_boson
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re: Who do you think was one of the best football players Not to win the Heisman?
P Manning and D McFadden


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3rddownonthe8
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re: Who do you think was one of the best football players Not to win the Heisman?
HW34 in 80 & 81.


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CapstoneGrad06
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re: Who do you think was one of the best football players Not to win the Heisman?
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Archie Manning in 1970. Any objective college football fan will agree.


Politics still at play. Same thing with Namath and Stabler. Other regions were generally not voting for any players on southern teams in that era. Particularly in states like Alabama and Mississippi. For obvious reasons. However, Spurrier did win in 1966 and Sullivan in 1971.


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MetroAtlantaGatorFan
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re: Who do you think was one of the best football players Not to win the Heisman?
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It's Darren McFadden and it's not even close. He got SCREWED out of a Heisman.

Not in 07. Tebow scored 56 TDs as a true sophomore.


MetroAtlantaGatorFan
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re: Who do you think was one of the best football players Not to win the Heisman?
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I never saw him play, but Dad always talked about how Johnny Majors got screwed when Hornung won it on a ND team that went 2-8.

Jim Brown is the one who got screwed that year. He didn't win it for obvious reasons.


TheGusBus34
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re: Who do you think was one of the best football players Not to win the Heisman?
Tre Mason


BigTx
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Member since Aug 2021
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re: Who do you think was one of the best football players Not to win the Heisman?
Yep. Vince Young. Obviously I'm a bit biased.
One thing I didn't know is that when it was stripped from Reggie Bush, Vince Young declined it.


Blackgloves
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re: Who do you think was one of the best football players Not to win the Heisman?
Because he drove GM products?


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Blackgloves
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re: Who do you think was one of the best football players Not to win the Heisman?
He choked in his last regular season game. He had a tremendous year, but the critics couldn't get past that game at Kyle.



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Glorious
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re: Who do you think was one of the best football players Not to win the Heisman?
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Toby Gerhart


I firmly believe that Gerhart would have been the 4th best runningback at Bama in 2009


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