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re: Who are you betting on to win the 2024 SEC Football Title ?

Posted on 2/27/24 at 1:11 pm to
Posted by BevoBucks
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Posted on 2/27/24 at 1:11 pm to
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Who are you betting on to win the 2024 SEC Football Title ?


Georgia. Saban’s retirement bequeathed the SEC’s mantle to them.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
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Posted on 2/27/24 at 1:11 pm to
Ole Miss, Bama, and LSU are good values.
Posted by TexasOnTop
Member since Nov 2023
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Posted on 2/27/24 at 1:13 pm to
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Georgia will be tough to beat with the depth


Depth at every position except the most important one, QB. Beck goes down and they're done.
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
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Posted on 2/27/24 at 1:22 pm to
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Depth at every position except the most important one, QB. Beck goes down and they're done.


UGA doesn't have experience in terms of backups at QB, but they have plenty of talent.

Gunner Stockton (#110 player in his recruiting class) and Ryan Puglisi (#143 player in his recruiting class) are plenty talented QB prospects.

Beck has extremely good pocket awareness as shown by the fact he was sacked just 11 times all last season. And while he occasionally scrambles for a first down, he doesn't run a ton so doesn't take many hits there either.

Their depth is pretty much what it has been for the last 5 seasons or so. UGA mostly had 3 QB's on the roster, with 4 in 1 or 2 of those seasons. None other than the starter really had significant game experience. Last season none including the starter had game experience and UGA only had 3 scholarship QB's.
Posted by BevoBucks
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Posted on 2/27/24 at 1:27 pm to
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UGA doesn't have experience in terms of backups at QB, but they have plenty of talent.


Agree your backup QB will be fine. Only question I have for you guys is who are the playmakers who will step in for Ladd & Bowers? The offense looked pretty stale last year when they weren’t 100%.
Posted by BlindedMeWithScience
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Posted on 2/27/24 at 1:30 pm to
Georgia
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 2/27/24 at 1:40 pm to
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Depth at every position except the most important one, QB. Beck goes down and they're done.


Same idea applies to nearly all of the teams, including yours.

With that said, this was also said about uga 2021, who won it all with the backup.
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
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Posted on 2/27/24 at 1:43 pm to
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Agree your backup QB will be fine. Only question I have for you guys is who are the playmakers who will step in for Ladd & Bowers? The offense looked pretty stale last year when they weren’t 100%.


Dominic Lovett was pretty productive when either Ladd or Brock was out. RaRa Thomas also showed up a few times putting up good stat lines. Oscar Delp isn't Brock Bowers, but he ended up with the 6th most receiving yards in the SEC for a TE despite being the #2 TE at UGA. He's not going to be a 7-900 yard guy, but he'll be 500-600 yard guy as the #1 for UGA at TE.

UGA also signed a few well regarded transfers at WR/TE. Ben Yurosek (TE from STanford). 239 yards last season but had a 653 yard season before that. Michael Jackson (WR from SoCal). 146 yards last season. Colbie Young (WR from Miami). 563 yards last season. London Humphries (WR from Vandy). 439 yards last season.

I feel like UGA brought in enough production to not be overly concerned. UGA's passing offense, even with Ladd and Brock, has always spread the ball around to a lot of WR's. I expect to see a lot of UGA guys with 300+ yards production net year but none who are 800+. The ball will be spread around like always.
Posted by TexasOnTop
Member since Nov 2023
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Posted on 2/27/24 at 1:43 pm to
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Same idea applies to nearly all of the teams, including yours.

...Texas has Arch. UGA's backup transferred and Dylan Raiola went to Nebraska. Now UGA is left with what would've been the 4th and 5th stringers.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 2/27/24 at 1:47 pm to
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Texas has Arch.


I don’t recall him proving much of anything on the college level. I do remember him struggling mightily on espn in HS though.
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
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Posted on 2/27/24 at 1:49 pm to
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...Texas has Arch. UGA's backup transferred and Dylan Raiola went to Nebraska. Now UGA is left with what would've been the 4th and 5th stringers.


THis is a bit misleading.

First of all, either Beck or Brock was going to be gone next season. There was no scenario UGA would have both.

Given that, Gunner Stockton was always going to be UGA's #2 QB this upcoming season. Raiola would have been 3rd with Puglisi 4th had he come to UGA. Now Puglisi is 3rd. Neither would have any experience at UGA. Puglisi is just in the 140's as a recruit rather than in the top 10. Top 150 recruits are all talented players, but yeah there's a slip at the #3 spot as top 10 is better than top 150.
Posted by TexasOnTop
Member since Nov 2023
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Posted on 2/27/24 at 1:55 pm to
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I don’t recall him proving much of anything on the college level. I do remember him struggling mightily on espn in HS though.




Weird, that doesn't explain why UGA aggressively recruited him.
Posted by TexasOnTop
Member since Nov 2023
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Posted on 2/27/24 at 1:59 pm to
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Given that, Gunner Stockton was always going to be UGA's #2 QB this upcoming season. Raiola would have been 3rd with Puglisi 4th had he come to UGA. Now Puglisi is 3rd. Neither would have any experience at UGA. Puglisi is just in the 140's as a recruit rather than in the top 10. Top 150 recruits are all talented players, but yeah there's a slip at the #3 spot as top 10 is better than top 150.


I agree, what I'm trying to say is that seems to be Georgia's weak spot if an injury were to happen. Yes anytime a backup comes in there is uncertainty. But it feels a lot better when you have a top 20 guy stepping up instead of a top 150 guy.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 2/27/24 at 1:59 pm to
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Weird, that doesn't explain why UGA aggressively recruited him.


What does uga recruiting him have to do with our discussion?

Your post about uga would be just as legitimate had he chosen uga instead of Texas.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32860 posts
Posted on 2/27/24 at 2:05 pm to
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But it feels a lot better when you have a top 20 guy stepping up instead of a top 150 guy.


I see, this is about “feels”.

Nevermind how often high level recruits don’t pan out, especially at QB.

Our 2021 backup began his college career as a walk on, then he had to transfer to a JUCO before finally getting an offer from the LOUISIANA Rajun Cajuns. He only got a scholarship spot at uga due to an unprecedented transfer situation.

The guy who replaced him wasn’t even a top 150 guy.
Posted by TexasOnTop
Member since Nov 2023
1381 posts
Posted on 2/27/24 at 2:50 pm to
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I see, this is about “feels”. Nevermind how often high level recruits don’t pan out, especially at QB. Our 2021 backup began his college career as a walk on, then he had to transfer to a JUCO before finally getting an offer from the LOUISIANA Rajun Cajuns. He only got a scholarship spot at uga due to an unprecedented transfer situation. The guy who replaced him wasn’t even a top 150 guy.


Seems like you're trying more to convince yourself than me.
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
4192 posts
Posted on 2/27/24 at 3:09 pm to
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I agree, what I'm trying to say is that seems to be Georgia's weak spot if an injury were to happen. Yes anytime a backup comes in there is uncertainty. But it feels a lot better when you have a top 20 guy stepping up instead of a top 150 guy.


I can see the thought, but you have to remember Carson Beck wasn't even a top 150 guy. He was 234 the year he came out.

Last year UGA was coming in with him as the #1 and two other guys who had never taken meaningful snaps behind him.

UGA having a proven Beck and 2 top 150 guys behind him is pretty solid depth in today's college football. I feel fine with Stockton playing this year if necessary. I would be a bit worried if we had two injuries and Puglisi had to play, but is any school going to be fine with their 3rd string QB having to play meaningful snaps. I don't think anyone has that kind of depth anymore where their #3 guy isn't a big step down from #1.

If we have to play our #3 (like UGA did in 2000) we won't make the playoff more than likely. But that holds for every team in the NCAA I think.

The reason I'm confident even if Beck goes down and Stockton plays is UGA's offense isn't really dependent upon superb QB play. It's dependent upon adequate QB play. It's more about checking down to find the open man rather than making an incredible throw to a covered WR. Combine that with superb OL play and a solid running game and you get an offense that may not wow you but moves the ball and puts up points.

And let's be clear... Stockton didn't throw many fewer passes than Nico Imaleava did for UT in their bowls.

Nico was 12-19 for 151 yards and 1 TD throwing the ball.
Gunner was 6-10 for 96 yards and 2 TD throwing the ball.

Gunner also had 46 yards rushing compared to 27 for Nico.

The difference is Gunner is our backup QB while Nico will be the starter for UTk. I feel fine about our depth.
Posted by BigOrangeLoyalist
Warner Robins, GA
Member since Aug 2016
2423 posts
Posted on 2/27/24 at 3:30 pm to
Gunner is a solid backup. Georgia doesn’t need to be concerned. If Nico goes down, VOLS are fuuudged.
Posted by reggierayreb
Germantown
Member since Nov 2012
16966 posts
Posted on 2/27/24 at 3:58 pm to
Why does your pussy always hurt Sleepy Tiger ?
I didn’t put these odds together Vegas did.
I put $25 on LSU

Posted by 49 to nada
In aggy and gooner heads, rent free
Member since Sep 2023
1162 posts
Posted on 2/27/24 at 6:12 pm to
Ask me again about 3 games into the season, way too early to be putting money on anything at the moment.
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