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Which SEC RBs saw the most 8 man fronts?
Posted on 7/12/18 at 7:57 pm
Posted on 7/12/18 at 7:57 pm
Rushes per game against 8 in the box
*Since 2010
Leonard Fournette: 8.1
Jeremy Hill: 7.8
Ralph Webb: 7.0
Alex Collins: 7.0
Nick Chubb: 6.3
*Since 2010
Leonard Fournette: 8.1
Jeremy Hill: 7.8
Ralph Webb: 7.0
Alex Collins: 7.0
Nick Chubb: 6.3
This post was edited on 7/12/18 at 8:09 pm
Posted on 7/12/18 at 8:00 pm to Sean Bean
Glad you clarified the year because I was going to say McFadden for sure.
Posted on 7/12/18 at 8:10 pm to Sean Bean
says alot about LSU's qb situation
Posted on 7/12/18 at 8:15 pm to CarolinaGamecock99
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says alot about LSU's qb situation
Or rather says just as much regarding Miles’ creativity on offense or lack thereof. LSU actually had good QB play when Jeremy Hill was there. But everyone in the stadium knew what plays he was calling. Fortunately Beckham, Landry, and Mettenberger were good enough to overcome it in 2013
Posted on 7/12/18 at 8:17 pm to CarolinaGamecock99
Hill played with Mettenberger.
It's all on miles there and the uninventive offense.
It's all on miles there and the uninventive offense.
This post was edited on 7/12/18 at 8:17 pm
Posted on 7/12/18 at 8:20 pm to Sean Bean
How many did McFadden average facing in 2006 and 2007. I'm just curious.
This post was edited on 7/12/18 at 8:21 pm
Posted on 7/12/18 at 8:26 pm to Sean Bean
I legit remember Fournette running against 10 guys in the box vs Texas Tech.
Posted on 7/12/18 at 8:28 pm to Sean Bean
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Leonard Fournette: 8.1
He must’ve had 12+ carries per game against 8 man fronts against the rest of the conference bc Bama handled him with 7 in the box.
And before some butthurt LSU fans white knights for LF, I’m not knocking him. Dude is a baller. It just never showed against Bama. It did others and has in the nfl.
Posted on 7/12/18 at 8:30 pm to Sean Bean
1. Bo Jackson (esp with the wishbone in 82 and 83).
2. Herschel Walker
2. Herschel Walker
Posted on 7/12/18 at 8:36 pm to Maytheporkbewithyou
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How many did McFadden average facing in 2006 and 2007. I'm just curious.
STATS only started tracking this since 2010. I was hoping for more honestly.
Posted on 7/12/18 at 8:38 pm to Maytheporkbewithyou
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How many did McFadden average facing in 2006 and 2007. I'm just curious.
Has to be over 30% of his total rushes
This post was edited on 7/12/18 at 8:40 pm
Posted on 7/12/18 at 8:45 pm to Sean Bean
I don’t think op can define what “eight in the box” means or would recognize it consistently. I heard LSU fans constantly talk about Alabama against Fournette, but I did not see it once when I reviewed the game...not once did a safety come down to run defense before the ball was snapped. It was just an ignorant corn dog Tr talking point.
Re: snap of the ball - After the ball is snapped is where it gets interesting...what does the defense do...blitz, delayed blitz, Safety step up, cover two, etc, The definition of what constitutes “eight in the box” becomes very difficult. In the NC game against Miami in Jan., 1993, Alabama routinely put 10-11 men within 2 yds of the LOS on defense... then would drop back into coverage when the ball was snapped. Of course that was probably the greatest CFB defense of all time...all 11 starters played extensively in the NFL. But still.... would you say it was 11 in the box? Against that awesome Miami running game and that duel threat QB Geno Toretto (LOL)?
Re: snap of the ball - After the ball is snapped is where it gets interesting...what does the defense do...blitz, delayed blitz, Safety step up, cover two, etc, The definition of what constitutes “eight in the box” becomes very difficult. In the NC game against Miami in Jan., 1993, Alabama routinely put 10-11 men within 2 yds of the LOS on defense... then would drop back into coverage when the ball was snapped. Of course that was probably the greatest CFB defense of all time...all 11 starters played extensively in the NFL. But still.... would you say it was 11 in the box? Against that awesome Miami running game and that duel threat QB Geno Toretto (LOL)?
This post was edited on 7/12/18 at 8:51 pm
Posted on 7/12/18 at 8:51 pm to Solo Cam
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I legit remember Fournette running against 10 guys in the box vs Texas Tech.
That Texas Tech defense was maybe the worst run defense I’ve ever seen from a P5 team.
They could have put 13 in the box and they still wouldn’t have been able to stop a good running back.
Posted on 7/12/18 at 8:53 pm to Jacknola
CajunBama, you seem angry for no reason at all. Even logged into all of your alternate accounts to downvote me?
Posted on 7/12/18 at 9:14 pm to Sean Bean
Hi Sean Bean - I see you registered a month or so ago. I guess you are just another fat-boy Derek P (punk boy for the Special Eaux) alter? Just like all the others you’ve created lately to flood Tr and SECr with slobbering crud about the wonderful LSU coaching staff?
So just in case, would you like to tell us all where those statistics you posted came from? Who gathered them? And how they defined the subject? No? ...I don’t blame you since you just made up random numbers to give undue attention to pedestrian LSU run games.
Look Derek, you may be fooling the corn dogs on Tr so why don’t you stay there instead of putting up tired and old myths here? Your little BS balloon about this has been punctured so many times it looks like a wimp. Why I’ll bet Alabama QB Hurts faced more “8 man in box” plays than fournette or Guice.
So just in case, would you like to tell us all where those statistics you posted came from? Who gathered them? And how they defined the subject? No? ...I don’t blame you since you just made up random numbers to give undue attention to pedestrian LSU run games.
Look Derek, you may be fooling the corn dogs on Tr so why don’t you stay there instead of putting up tired and old myths here? Your little BS balloon about this has been punctured so many times it looks like a wimp. Why I’ll bet Alabama QB Hurts faced more “8 man in box” plays than fournette or Guice.
This post was edited on 7/12/18 at 9:18 pm
Posted on 7/12/18 at 9:16 pm to Sean Bean
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STATS only started tracking this since 2010. I was hoping for more honestly.
Bummer!
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Sean Bean
Posted on 7/12/18 at 9:19 pm to Sean Bean
It'd be interesting to see that as a % of rushes.
Posted on 7/12/18 at 9:31 pm to bamasgot13
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He must’ve had 12+ carries per game against 8 man fronts against the rest of the conference bc Bama handled him with 7 in the box.
Bama's defensive line stomped a mudhole in LSU's OL in 15 and 16. And while they may only line up 7 around the LOS, Saban plays robber a lot with a "rat in the hole" where the safety rotates down to the middle of the field a lot and that guy is usually flying downhill to make a tackle.
Posted on 7/12/18 at 9:36 pm to Jacknola
He thinks I’m an LSU fan because I posted stats with LSU players at the top of the list. A list that proves a point that he has COMPLETELY missed.
When CajunBama sees anything related to LSU, his already low comprehension skills are all but thrown out of the window.
You are BEYOND angry about this. Calm down there little guy.
Also, I guess you missed all of my Bama threads the last few days.
These numbers were gathered from STATS Inc. Want a subscription reference? I can get you 20% off.
When CajunBama sees anything related to LSU, his already low comprehension skills are all but thrown out of the window.
You are BEYOND angry about this. Calm down there little guy.
Also, I guess you missed all of my Bama threads the last few days.
These numbers were gathered from STATS Inc. Want a subscription reference? I can get you 20% off.
This post was edited on 7/12/18 at 11:38 pm
Posted on 7/12/18 at 9:40 pm to Jacknola
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I don’t think op can define what “eight in the box” means or would recognize it consistently.
Oh really? Are you sure you know what "eight in the box" means? Because then you said this..........
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In the NC game against Miami in 1993,Alabama routinely put 10-11 men within 2 yds of the LOS on defense... then would drop back into coverage when the ball was snapped. Of course that was probably the greatest CFB defense of all time...all 11 starters played extensively in the NFL. But still.... would you say it was 11 in the box?
Apparently you don't know what "in the box" means either.
The "box" as it relates to a defensive alignment is when a defense has players within 5 yards of the line of scrimmage framed by the offensive tackles. Therefore bama never had 11 in the box against Miami unless they were all within 5 yards of the LOS from tackle to tackle.
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I heard LSU fans constantly talk about Alabama against Fournette, but I did not see it once when I reviewed the game...not once did a safety come down to run defense before the ball was snapped
I seem to remember little nicky running a 5-2 (4 DL) with a LB over the TE with outside leverage, 1 safety cheating at the snap and the other ready to attack any empty gaps
Do you really belive bama ran their base 3-4 and just had their safeties play 10-15 yards from the LOS?
I think he did the opposite of what you said bama did Miami in 1993. He only had seven at the LOS at the snap, but before LF could take two steps he was getting hit almost every play. mostly it was DL and LB's. The few times he got past them there was a safety to meet him within 1 yard of the LOS.
Fournette was hit in the backfield more by bama than any other team he ever faced. They were run-blitzing and and shooting gaps every time he touched the ball.
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