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re: What's the spat between Chizik and VanGorder?

Posted on 9/20/12 at 11:04 pm to
Posted by Itreallydoesmatter
Member since Mar 2011
949 posts
Posted on 9/20/12 at 11:04 pm to
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There is a communication issue going on. Chizik is disciPling players and holding them out of games for things BVG feels is a bit trivial and would be ignored at other schools.

Chizik is doing this to tighten up on some who feel the rules don't apply to them.


hmmm.
Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
13619 posts
Posted on 9/20/12 at 11:13 pm to
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How's Brother Bill doing?


Wldnt know. He's a little old for me. I'm early 30s. Bill is mid-late 60s, I believe. He's not a guy I get any info from. He's not particularly connected at either in state school any more.
Posted by LSUnation78
Northshore
Member since Aug 2012
12054 posts
Posted on 9/21/12 at 12:15 am to
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Apparently when Gene sleeps like a baby at night he likes to spoon, and VanGorder does not like the woody in da butt.
Pissed him off.


So he only likes it in da butt on gamedays?
Posted by TTsTowel
RIP Bow9den/Coastie
Member since Feb 2010
91642 posts
Posted on 9/21/12 at 12:18 am to
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Chizik is disciPling players and holding them out of games for things BVG feels is a bit trivial and would be ignored at other schools.
I agree with BVG on this. Chizik wouldn't even let Erique Florence dress out for the UL-Monroe game because he missed a team meeting. That's basically suspending a player an entire game for missing a fricking meeting. Not getting arrested, not failing a drug test, but for missing a meeting. C'mon.
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
18994 posts
Posted on 9/21/12 at 12:21 am to
BVG is starting to seem like the only guy down there who knows what the frick he is doing... It's good that he is taking charge and cracking heads, because Chiz sure as frick ain't doing it.
Posted by rangers911
Member since Jun 2009
5159 posts
Posted on 9/21/12 at 8:39 am to
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I agree with BVG on this. Chizik wouldn't even let Erique Florence dress out for the UL-Monroe game because he missed a team meeting. That's basically suspending a player an entire game for missing a fricking meeting. Not getting arrested, not failing a drug test, but for missing a meeting. C'mon.


This wasn't EF's first issue, while he hasn't done anything major several on the team feel the rules don't apply to them. Chizik intends to stop this. Richt let players play doing similar things such as missing curfew and not attending meetings, BVG is not pleased with the fact he learned of the suspension late.

Really what it comes down to is BVG is not pleased with the defense and it bothers him that some of the players he wants to put on the field are suspended at various times. As some have already said BVG needs to realize this isn't Richt or UGA.

Other than this issue I don't see much else bad with this staff, provided Auburn boosters stay out of things.
Posted by Thracken13
Aft Cargo Hold of Serenity
Member since Feb 2010
15922 posts
Posted on 9/21/12 at 8:55 am to
a rule is a rule brother.
Posted by warcry
Mobile
Member since Aug 2011
4770 posts
Posted on 9/21/12 at 8:58 am to
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Bolt was/is Pat Dyes eyes and ears on the staff. He is how Pat inserts his imput on how things need to be done on defense. BVG is pissed hat Pat is meddling in his business!


I am one for seeing Pat removed from every aspect of the football program.
Posted by speckledtrout
Birmingham, AL
Member since Apr 2011
2035 posts
Posted on 9/21/12 at 9:01 am to
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I am one for seeing Pat removed from every aspect of the football program.



You would have a better chance of banging Marisa Miller than that happening.

Posted by holic
NOT in Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
250 posts
Posted on 9/21/12 at 9:02 am to
Posted by rangers911
Member since Jun 2009
5159 posts
Posted on 9/21/12 at 9:06 am to
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Bolt was/is Pat Dyes eyes and ears on the staff. He is how Pat inserts his imput on how things need to be done on defense. BVG is pissed hat Pat is meddling in his business!


Chizik has a long relationship with Bolt, this is not some Pat Dye issue like Bama fans would like to make it out to be.
Posted by DawgFARKer
Sandestin
Member since Dec 2009
4843 posts
Posted on 9/21/12 at 9:07 am to
Chiz is jealous of Van Goiter's porn stache?

Posted by UAFanFromNOLA
NOLA
Member since Dec 2011
4882 posts
Posted on 9/21/12 at 9:07 am to
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You would have a better chance of banging Marisa Miller than that happening.

So you're saying there's a chance
Posted by allin2010
Auburn
Member since Aug 2011
18150 posts
Posted on 9/21/12 at 9:11 am to
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I agree with BVG on this. Chizik wouldn't even let Erique Florence dress out for the UL-Monroe game because he missed a team meeting. That's basically suspending a player an entire game for missing a fricking meeting. Not getting arrested, not failing a drug test, but for missing a meeting. C'mon.


Well it was more than one meeting, but some of us think Chizik has gone overboard with the discipline, from invoking an 11 curfew during the week and midnight on weekends to suspending players too easily and quickly (think the Clemson game) for small violations.
Posted by Lg
Hayden, Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
6800 posts
Posted on 9/21/12 at 9:13 am to
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Chizik has a long relationship with Bolt,


I never thought it had anything to do with Dye. My thought is, that Chizik had Bolt in the meetings since he couldn't be in there to report to him what was said in the meeting. Now if BVG had a problem with him being in the meeting, why wouldn't he tell the HC he didn't want him in there?
Posted by Ronaldo Burgundiaz
NWA
Member since Jan 2012
6541 posts
Posted on 9/21/12 at 9:15 am to
Chiz called VanGorder out after VanGorder stated: "Back in '82, I used to be able to throw a pigskin a quarter mile."
Posted by speckledtrout
Birmingham, AL
Member since Apr 2011
2035 posts
Posted on 9/21/12 at 9:15 am to
Why wouldn't Chiz be in the meeting?
Posted by Lg
Hayden, Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
6800 posts
Posted on 9/21/12 at 9:17 am to
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Why wouldn't Chiz be in the meeting?


It's at the same time he and Dye meet every day.
Posted by AUtigerNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since Apr 2011
17107 posts
Posted on 9/21/12 at 9:18 am to
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Why wouldn't Chiz be in the meeting?


He was getting his "teeth" cleaned.
Posted by NorthGwinnettTiger
Member since Jun 2006
51817 posts
Posted on 9/21/12 at 9:19 am to
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but some of us think Chizik has gone overboard with the discipline, from invoking an 11 curfew during the week and midnight on weekends to suspending players too easily and quickly (think the Clemson game) for small violations.



I don't. I'm glad he's doing this. May be putting a shite product on the field, but at least he's showing some discipline.
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