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re: What schools comprise the true SEC "blue bloods"?
Posted on 7/25/21 at 6:58 am to Saskwatch
Posted on 7/25/21 at 6:58 am to Saskwatch
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I dunno. They may have the win total and longevity but never thought of them as Blue Blood. Maybe just perception and the fact they have been close to winning Championship so many times but always seem to fizzle out in final game.
That is recency bias. Back in the 70's for sure, Oklahoma, Texas, Notre Dame, USC, Ohio State and Michigan ruled college football. You can add Nebraska and Alabama to the mix then, too. Oklahoma deserves to be considered Blue Blood. Do not confuse today's Oklahoma (Which is still very good) with the Oklahoma of the past.
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Posted on 7/25/21 at 6:58 am to 308
Why is this forum obsessed with "blue bloods"?
It's no longer the 19th century and the SEC's dominance in college athletics is a relatively recent phenomenon. Programs peak and wane. Names like Michigan Nebraska, Southern Cal, Miami, and Florida State might have been considered blue bloods, but that's a long time ago.
No one would call Clemson a blue blood, but would any Clemson fan trade places with Southern Cal to be called one?
It's no longer the 19th century and the SEC's dominance in college athletics is a relatively recent phenomenon. Programs peak and wane. Names like Michigan Nebraska, Southern Cal, Miami, and Florida State might have been considered blue bloods, but that's a long time ago.
No one would call Clemson a blue blood, but would any Clemson fan trade places with Southern Cal to be called one?
Posted on 7/25/21 at 6:59 am to Navtiger1
quote:Two distinct forms of content. GAT is a troller, straight up. TD is a whiner, plain and simple. But they could be one and the same, just changing between logins.
You two have to be the same poster...there can't be two people who post the exact same stupid shite.
Posted on 7/25/21 at 6:59 am to Dubaitiger
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2000
Yep.
Posted on 7/25/21 at 7:01 am to RiverCityTider
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There is only one. Soon there will be two.
Blueblood = old money.
There is only five is the entire country. Bama, Ohio State, Notre Dame, Oklahoma, USC
Talking football.
The question was not who are the blue bloods that are in the SEC. It was who are the SEC blue bloods, implying a different standard specific to the SEC and outside the national microscope.
I would think that would entail the traditional SEC big 6.
Posted on 7/25/21 at 7:06 am to Dubaitiger
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National titles BCS and Now CF Playoffs since 2000
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Alabama- 6
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Oklahoma- 1
Auburn- 1
Florida State- 1
Texas- 1
USC- 1
Miami- 1
Posted on 7/25/21 at 9:05 am to mortgageman82
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Texas was a blue blood
Texas has never been a blue blood. Texas and its fans have always been in their own little bubble.
Posted on 7/25/21 at 9:08 am to 308
Alabama
Kentucky
Tennessee (women's basketball)
Kentucky
Tennessee (women's basketball)
Posted on 7/25/21 at 9:16 am to C W
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C W
What schools comprise the true SEC "blue bloods"?
Alabama
Yet this century there is only one school with more than 2 national championships in football other than Alabama.
LSU has 3 national titles and puts themselves in the blue blood.
My take on the question was what SEC schools that are blue bloods would be the schools that were members before the expansion in the 90's
1933
The original member schools of the Southeastern Conference, which began play in 1933, were Alabama, Auburn (then Alabama Polytechnic Institute), Florida, Georgia, Georgia Tech, Kentucky, Louisiana State, Mississippi, Mississippi State (then Mississippi A&M), Sewanee, Tennessee, Tulane and Vanderbilt.
Posted on 7/25/21 at 9:16 am to DawgsLife
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Back in the 70's for sure, Oklahoma, Texas, Notre Dame, USC, Ohio State and Michigan ruled college football.
ALABAMA ruled the 70s. They won more college football games in that decade than any other team in the nation. A record for an 11 game schedule at the time.
BAMA won 3 national championships in the 70s and they won the SEC championship 8 times out of the possible 10.
Posted on 7/25/21 at 9:31 am to five_fivesix
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used to be what?
This myth of Texas ever being a blue-blood has always baffled me. 2 Nattys in their history? Come’ on, man. And Dick Nixon had to give them one of those.
TU is UGA with cash.
I think they have 4 total NC's starting hin the AP/UP consensus poll era, 1936 to 1998 when the first BCS between TENN and FSU was held till 2014 season when the CFP started.
Posted on 7/25/21 at 9:36 am to 308
Almost all of them create a unique culture that creates a Blue Blood CONFERENCE. For instance, Ole Miss and Auburn aren't "bluebloods". But without them it's unimaginable and would suck.
Mizzou/Vandy are the outliers.
Mizzou/Vandy are the outliers.
Posted on 7/25/21 at 9:38 am to RollingwiththeTide
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What schools comprise the true SEC "blue bloods"?
Yeah Bama is historically a little better at BBall than given credit for. When Whimp Sanderson was there Bama was very good at Basketball. Seems they were in the Sweet Sixteen regularly. It’s because though they never went on and won a title. It seems like when you are really really good at one sport people only look at that one sport to judge you by. I guess it’s a lot like when people see a pretty girl and automatically assume that she is dating someone. So she never gets asked out. When you have a really pretty football or Basketball program nobody ever looks at the other sports lol.
You all were good in Basketball when CM Newton was coach, I watched some of his teams, so tells you I am kind of an old fart.
LSU's BB has peaks and valleys, the Bob Pettit era, the Pistol Pete era, the Daddy Dale Brown era and a recent era where we had a FF appearance with John Brady. Will Wade now making some headway and some occasional news
Posted on 7/25/21 at 9:42 am to DawgsLife
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Oklahoma deserves to be considered Blue Blood. Do not confuse today's Oklahoma (Which is still very good) with the Oklahoma of the pas
In what world is Oklahoma now not considered a blue blood? Not disagreeing with you, more so the one you replied to, but there are only three more successful programs than OU over the last 20 years
Posted on 7/25/21 at 9:47 am to LCTFAN
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LSU has 3 national titles and puts themselves in the blue blood.
LOL. So Nick Saban built your program so that even Les Miles and Orgeron won titles. What happened in those years between the whitebread 1950s and Nick Saban?
A good place to measure is 1970, which was about when all the SEC was integrated. Since then, LSU is 6th in the conference in total wins and 3rd in SEC titles. That's in the conference. That's not blueblood.
This post was edited on 7/25/21 at 10:04 am
Posted on 7/25/21 at 9:55 am to BLG
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What schools comprise the true SEC "blue bloods"?
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LSU has 3 national titles and puts themselves in the blue blood.
LOL. So Nick Saban built your program so that even Les Miles and Orgeron won titles. What happened in those years between the whitebread 1950s and Nick Saban?
A good place to measure is 1970, which was about when all the SEC was integrated. Since then, LSU is 4th in the conference in total wins and 3rd in SEC titles. That's in the conference. That's not blueblood.
The term Blueblood is one that obviously has a connotation of winning major titles over successive decades consistently, LSU won lots of games between 1958 (first consensus NC, AP/UPI-coaches) and Saban in 2003 winning the BCS and won some SEC titles between those 2 points in time (1961, 1970, 1986, 1988) before Saban got there and won the SEC title game in 2001.
So with the question of Blue Blood, the question was "SEC Blue Bloods?" under that scenario then LSU would as of now be probably 2nd or 3rd. National, then I would say as of today 5 total (Bama, OU, USC, Notre Dame, Ohio State).
Now if you use the term "Brand" LSU is not quite top 5, but top 7 or 8.
Posted on 7/25/21 at 9:56 am to 308
In the national championship era, LSU and Alabama.
Posted on 7/25/21 at 10:00 am to RogerTheShrubber
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What schools comprise the true SEC "blue bloods"?
In the national championship era, LSU and Alabama.
Friendly suggestion, in what I would call the Playoff era. , starting with BCS, where top 2 teams in Polls were matched in a bowl game. Prior to BCS, the top teams were in the Cotton, Sugar, Rose, or Orange (later on Fiesta) and voting by the AP or UPI_Coaches Poll decided the NC. Now we are in the CFP which just extended the BCS concept from the top 2 to the Top 4.
Posted on 7/25/21 at 10:01 am to 3rddownonthe8
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Alabama - Football
Kentucky- Basketball
No other sports gave bluebloods
Posted on 7/25/21 at 10:02 am to JKChesterton
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LSU won lots of games between 1958 (first consensus NC, AP/UPI-coaches) and Saban
LSU is 6th in the SEC in total wins 1958 to 2003. And actually, I was wrong about the total from 1970 to Nick Saban's arrival. LSU is also 6th in that timeframe. 6th in the conference, and you want to pretend LSU is a blue blood. That's just goofy. Till Nick Saban arrived there, not long ago, LSU was a mediocre also ran
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